Old Koreelah Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think to the contrary. Donald Trump has taken decisions, on several occasions, to negate the war mongering actions of people like John Bolton... Why in blazes did he appoint the man in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Why in blazes did he appoint the man in the first place? Hmm. Looking for logic in Trump's decisions. There's an exercise in futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Bit simplistic. How many wars did Obama start? How many did he inherit? I don't think he alone started any, but his administration was a significant contributing factor to the conflict in Libya, Ukraine and Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Is it true, Every female leader has gone to war." spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Why in blazes did he appoint the man in the first place? It is clear that being leader of the free world is not a licence to do what you please. The military industrial complex believe that they own you and dictate orders including who you will work with. Trump, however, is an aberration. He was never meant to win. So he does feel free to kick back and so he uninvited Bolton. This may have saved the world from another unwelcome war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Is it true, Every female leader has gone to war." spacesailor In 1982 I counted four countries (Sri Lanka, Israel, Britain and India) had female leaders. All had gone to war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 You have only got to observe Jacqui and Pauleen sparring. WO men aren't necessarily just cradle rockers. I'm backing Jacqui. She comes from a cold place . It's easier to be a ratbag in a hot place. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Is it true, Every female leader has gone to war." spacesailor New Zealand with Jacinda Adern doesn't look like they're going to war any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Gone to war or inherited a war. Julia Gillard inherited Afghanistan, but didn't go to war. Helen Clark, not sure about. And let's not forget Boudicea. She wasn't afraid of the odd scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 New Zealand with Jacinda Adern doesn't look like they're going to war any time soon. New Zealand is small, relatively isolated and seems to be well respected in the world, so would it be feasible for it to become a neutral country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 You cannot compare the politics of New Zealand with our Australian brown nosing apologies for politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 YEN Agreed. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 New Zealand is small, relatively isolated and seems to be well respected in the world, so would it be feasible for it to become a neutral country? And they have Hobbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth lacey Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 also they have a very small armed forces as such and could probably invade Tonga,Samoa,Fiji (why would they bother)they have very little natural resources and they rely on tourism, no one would invade them there is nothing there for any country of value ,and quite a few kiwis live in south east qld , that's their main export, don't get me wrong its a great place to visit ,but really comparing New Zealand too Aus is like comparing apples to oranges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 They know how to rebuild old aeroplanes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth lacey Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 They know how to rebuild old aeroplanes! They certainly do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Fear not, after drone attack on Saudi oil facilities Trump is "locked and loaded" Sounds reassuring to me -not! https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/internet-fears-trumps-locked-and-loaded-tweet-about-oil-field-bomb-means-hes-gearing-up-for-war-with-iran/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I travelled in NZ last year, up the coast from Christchurch, then across to the west coast and back by train across the S Isle. Whay amazed me was the ability of NZ to get things done. The work done in Christchurch to recover from the Earthquakes was amazing. The road and rail work up the coast N of Christchurch was similar. Here in Qld we have on one little stretch of Bruce Highway we have put up with 8 months of roadworks, or really it is not roadworks. We see a little bit of work done and then nothing for a few days and so it goes on. The road is the equivalent of 4 lanes wide, cut to 2 lanes and a 60kmh speed restriction. Before they started working it was 2 lanes wide and 100kph. If it was done by the NZ government it would have taken less than a month. I wonder who sent those drones in, it could well have been the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The total population of New Zealand is less than that of Melbourne, yet they do so much with the little resources they have . They also behave in a pretty civilised way in Politics and have respected leaders of both parties. No one likes the government there though (maybe it's just the way they are expected to behave) and they don't like Possums. It's a harder environment for people to live in. We get things much easier here but still stuff everything up that we possibly can in every way we show our stupidity endlessly.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Talk about stuff things up. I was close to the CBD today (only been into the CBD once in the last 5 years). I take my wife to a matinee concert at Hamer Hall on St Kilda Road, between the Arts Centre and Princes Bridge. My normal route is along Olympic Drive, between AAMI Park and Rod Laver Arena, over the Swan St Bridge and around Linlithgow Avenue to St Kilda Rd.The last couple of times Linlithgow Ave has been closed for roadworks. It is now one very narrow lane each way with kerb and post barriers down both sides to protect bicycle lanes the full width of a normal traffic lane. Cars were creeping along nose to tail, and not one bicycle in the bike lanes. Then, Southbank Blvd, at the southern end of the Arts Centre, is now also one lane each way for part of its length with a reserve for trams down the middle with grass between the tracks. At the intersection with Sturt Street, if you make a left turn into Sturt St, only 3 cars can get around because there is a set of pedestrian lights just around the corner. Can you imagine them closing down one whole block of George St in Sydney for 3 years? That's what is happening in Flinders St, between Elizabeth St and Swanston St, while they build the new underground railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 "no one would invade them " The Maori invaded & displace the Mori-ori, (the Gentle giants). Then the big invasion. The White man came. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Can you imagine them closing down one whole block of George St in Sydney for 3 years? That's what is happening in Flinders St, between Elizabeth St and Swanston St, while they build the new underground railway. No imagining. They did, plus a lot of other roads around the CBD. And the State got ripped off into the bargain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 "no one would invade them " The Maori invaded & displace the Mori-ori, (the Gentle giants). Then the big invasion. The White man came. spacesailor Good point, Spacey. NZ history might be much longer and more interesting than the official version. There is considerable evidence for people being there at least 7,000 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 NEVER EVER. Get invited to dinner, Low doors on a Maori house, So the old have to bend over to get inside , Then, The axe falls on their neck & into the cooking pot they go !. Pākehā & Puha was a staple diet, now available on a "food-truck". spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmick Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 "no one would invade them " The Maori invaded & displace the Mori-ori, (the Gentle giants). Then the big invasion. The White man came. spacesailor Difference is white man had to say sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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