Old Koreelah Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said: Mal Frazer, apart from being a Carlton supporter and being a bit of a knob of a PM, seemed otherwise be a good bloke... A generation before Howard’s infamous scare campaign against “boat people”, Fraser made me proud of Australia. When many boatloads of desperate Vietnamese refugees were reported, he mobilised the Navy to rescue them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 How the world has changed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 That's why we can get great Vietnamese food in Melbourne. They called a Western Sydney suburb "Vietnamatta" Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 I reckon Fraser appeared to move to the left after he finished up as PM. Eisenhower and Menzies were way to the left of where their parties ( republican and liberal) are today. Did you know that Eisenhower approved of unions? And I grew up in Alice Springs under Menzies, and in those days we were almost communist, only done right... well, mainly right. Everybody, nearly, was on the govt payroll and it all worked well I reckon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Darwin was really a steamy Hot version of Canberra when I first started going there. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said: Did you know that Eisenhower approved of unions? I will try and track down an interesting historical vid about the USA and unions. Apparently, when it was just employers and employees (unions) in the US, it was generally a convivial affair; then step in the "rent gatherers" who just invest money and want a return; they don't themselves participate in the economic activities that generate the return, and everything turned to ship(t) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 "Equity Fund Managers" Bigger than many governments and answerable to no one. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Black Rock and Vanguard basically own the "free world" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Where's the FREE world exactly? Where's the "EQUITY" in these equity funds. Large amounts can manipulate and distort markets. Monopolies is not the Capitalist idea. Competition is/was. Where's the Anti trust laws? Nev 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Anti trust laws are a joke as the people who enforce them are in the large corporations pockets. Even the vanguard of the rule of law; the EU move slowly and end up sayhing something like, "well, if you want to merge or buy something, then you have to dispose of something else." And the corporation picks the worst performing and least synergised business to dispose of; or as in the case of a couple of big banks, not getting rid of what they said they would and no consequences were incured. The equity, however, is with the fund investors; we have some investments in Vanguard fuinds, and of course, super is invested in these funds as well.. The people with the real power are not the funds per se, but the fund managers'. They are the entities that make the investments on behalf of the funds - i.e. it is they whop run the strategies iin the market. They are often from the same group of companies, but there are specialist fund managers out there who work across many funds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 BUT Like N Z !. It is a mere ' stroke of the pen ' , to remove all those ' Super Assets ' . To pay off that crippling dept we have to live with . spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said: I reckon Fraser appeared to move to the left after he finished up as PM. Eisenhower and Menzies were way to the left of where their parties ( republican and liberal) are today. Did you know that Eisenhower approved of unions? Eisenhower was the last decent President the Republican Party produced. The last to balance the budget. That party has long ago been taken over by a cult of greed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 It is amazing that a Nation, created on Christian principles, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. “This is the first and great commandment. “And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Matthew 22:37–39), so ignores the second one, or else the love of self is actually a bitter self-loathing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Old Koreelah said: Eisenhower was the last decent President the Republican Party produced. The last to balance the budget. Hey that sounds great! How soon can we start up a Republican party here in little ole Aussie? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Love thy neighbour (but don't let her husband find out.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 That little bit ! , should be at the forefront of All our ' elected members ' . Never mind changing anything. They, ' Politicians ' Are elected to ' serve ' their, constituents . Or have Ibeen misled ? . spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Watch this all the way through. I'm not sure how many Starbucks there are in Australlia, if any, but this is unreal. VID-20220530-WA0010.mp4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 Gee, The ACCC and Fair Trading should see that. If it's not fraudulent behaviour, what is? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 9 hours ago, red750 said: Watch this all the way through. I'm not sure how many Starbucks there are in Australlia, if any, but this is unreal. Yep, it is unreal. The 'Starbucks Cup-Size Scam' Video Is an Old Internet Prank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 It's on the Internet, it must be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 It is eventually taken as true. It's an insidious thing, Propaganda. You also get addicted to a lot of these sources. You can also end up being a full blown conspiracy theorist. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 3 hours ago, octave said: Yep, it is unreal. The 'Starbucks Cup-Size Scam' Video Is an Old Internet Prank There you go again..... Spoiling a great story by bringing facts into it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 hours ago, nomadpete said: There you go again..... Spoiling a great story by bringing facts into it. Yep, it's what I do, mythbusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 2 hours ago, octave said: Yep, it's what I do, mythbusting. BORING ! You can't get clicks that way ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) How do we know the mythbusting isn't itself a myth? I mean those videos on snopes purport to be different cup sizes holding different volumes if liquid, but how do we knoe it wasn't a trick created by Starbucks to debunk the truth? Sincerely, DJ Trump Edited May 19, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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