The climate change debate continues.

[Bruce Tuncks]

AND what about the Rainbow Warrior? That episode made me ashamed as an Australian.

[spacesailor]

Blooody metric murders.

AND

France gave those Terrorist,s a holiday resort sentence.

spacesailor

[nomadpete]

Settle down lads.

It's not called terrorism when our "friends" do it, or when our own military and police do it.

 

It's only allowed to be called terrorism when officially designated baddies do it.

Edited February 26, 2021 by nomadpete

[spacesailor]

THEN IT IS TERRORISM !.

The French government sent their ' james bond ' to a Forein country to murder the anti whalers,

'GreenPeace '

And l put a capital P, in there on purpose.

None Violent protesters, blown up and murdered in their Bed. ( in the Rainbow Warrior ).

Whats Not Terrorism !

spacesailor

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by spacesailor
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[Marty_d]

I think you may have missed the ironic tone in Peter's post, Spacey.

[red750]

[Marty_d]

 

2 hours ago, red750 said:

 

Misinformation Peter - Octave has previously posted a video proving pretty comprehensively that the carbon produced by the burning of fossil fuels plus the process of refining it (which your denialists never seem to factor in) is greater than that produced by an electric vehicle, even if the generation of the power used to charge it is coal.

 

Which will become less and less the case anyway.  South Australia is now 60% renewable.  Not sure how much we are here in Tassie - should be 100% due to hydroelectric power but I think they stuffed up and had to do a lot of diesel generation in the last couple of years.

[Jerry_Atrick]

I saw the picture and thought it was the great delusion being referred to.. silly me

[old man emu]

South Australia could become a boom State if they found water.

[facthunter]

And I could be my  Auntie if I'd married my uncle. The bastards up the river have screwed SA. No Capital Gains is paid on water speculation profits either.. Crime pays. You just have to have the right contacts .Nev

[willedoo]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

South Australia could become a boom State if they found water.

Part of the State is booming, up at Woomera.

[old man emu]

2 minutes ago, willedoo said:

Part of the State is booming, up at Woomera.

I saw a real estate ad for a new residential area at Woomera. It said that the the developers had spent a lot on creating attractive landscapes. 

 

It think the estate was called New Clear Views.

[willedoo]

1 minute ago, old man emu said:

saw a real estate ad for a new residential area at Woomera. It said that the the developers had spent a lot on creating attractive landscapes. 

 

It think the estate was called New Clear Views.

Maybe it will boom. I was referring to a different sort of boom, probably better spelt kaboom.

[willedoo]

I've only ever been through Woomera once, back when the refugee centre was still operating. We were moving camp from Moomba to Kintore in the NT and had to go that way because of wet roads on other routes. We went down via Lyndhurst and Roxby Downs to Woomera then out to the highway. There is some unusual country on the Roxby Downs side of Woomera. Very thick mulga covering sand dunes. The only other place I've seen thick mulga on dunes is west of Marla around the Mintabie opal fields. I'm sure there would be similar in other areas I haven't been to.

Edited February 28, 2021 by willedoo

[facthunter]

ALL too far from a SEA breeze for me.. South Australia can get some very hot days resulting from winds that have crossed a lot of miles of hot desert. The hottest part is the Kimberly's when it's at it's worst. No way can I take over 45 C . Nev

[spacesailor]

My shed gets very hot !, just under the Big fiveO, 49 on three thermometer,s.

Which seems to be the death of AGM batteries in that hot environment.

spacesailor

[old man emu]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

It think the estate was called New Clear Views.

 

[Marty_d]

I read a fictional book about Maralinga once.  The only thing I can remember about it, is that the hero had a Land Rover fitted with aircraft wheels off a Mirage.  The story claimed the bolt pattern was exactly the same.

[Old Koreelah]

10 hours ago, Marty_d said:

I read a fictional book about Maralinga once.  The only thing I can remember about it, is that the hero had a Land Rover fitted with aircraft wheels off a Mirage.  The story claimed the bolt pattern was exactly the same.

Marty my sources say that is unlikely, given the French used metric and Landrovers at the time used imperial...

 

But, Mirage tyres were popular with Dune Buggies; they were very rigid and fitted straight onto VW rims.

[onetrack]

Marty, you sure you didn't get that info from Mad Max? I reckon most of their buggies were built up from parts of Landrovers, VeeDubs, Toyotas, and Mirages.

 

The Mirage appears to use just one central hub nut for wheel retention, in line with most larger aircraft design.

 

http://www.grubbyfingersshop.com/walkaround_galleries/Dassault_Mirage_F1c_Walkaround_33-LA_French_Belgium_2015/content/Dassault_Mirage_F1c_Walkaround_33-LA_French_29_GraemeMolineux_large.html

 

Edited March 1, 2021 by onetrack

[octave]

On 27/02/2021 at 8:46 PM, red750 said:

  OK some quick back of the envelope calculations. 

My rooftop solar in 13 months has produced an excess of 2 MWh which I sell back to the grid.

This is power I am generating but not using.  The average EV (say a Kona) will do 7km per KWh.  My excess power generation of  2000 KWh would drive an EV 14000KM without any outside power.  I do not own an EV (yet) but my present the published figures for my car are 7.6 Litre per 100km although as it has gotten older I am using about 8,4litres per 100k. 

 

The cartoon is inaccurate because not many grids run solely on coal and as the grid moves towards cleaner electricity production the EV becomes cleaner.  Another issue that is often forgotten is the electricity required to produce 1 litre of petrol.   Perhaps another cartoon would be appropriate  where  someone is filling their car with petrol, a fuel tanker is delivering the fuel to the service station  and a refinery is  connected to a coal fired power station.  Not to mention an oil tanker bringing the  crude oil from afar.

 

I find it hard to understand the anti EV crowd.  Most car companies have announced end dates to ICE vehicles but this is a not for quite a while (GM has announced 2035)    I think it will probably happen earlier through market forces. 2035 is just the point at which ICE will not be produced, it is not a ban on owning and driving an ICE car.

 

To me the anti EV crowd seem to be just about being anti change.

 

 

[old man emu]

I was mowing my backyard yesterday and was thinking about the carbon balance of that activity. The grass has grown really well this year because of the rain, so it has fixed a lot of CO2 in its leaves. I didn't measure how much petrol I put in the mower, but let's say I used 500 ml. Even though I reduced the living leaf area of the backyard by cutting a lot away, the plants have started to photosynthesise since dawn. They are fixing CO2 again. 

 

I wonder how much of the CO2 I generated with the mower has been fixed by the regrowth of the grass.

[Bruce Tuncks]

Here in western Vic, there could be a thousand tons of charcoal made from old timber on our farm alone.

burying that would take that carbon from the air and put it away for geologic time.

This would be the exact opposite of coal mining and burning.

[spacesailor]

MARALINGA NT.

Buffalo 

I,m watching a film ( series ) on it at the moment. ( NETFLIX )

It starts off saying, " it,s fiction, but a lot of the Bad things really did happen" .

ASIC gets a very bad rap in it, as murderous thugs !.

I haven,t met any ( yet ) are they bad people ?.

spacesailor

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[Marty_d]

10 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

Here in western Vic, there could be a thousand tons of charcoal made from old timber on our farm alone.

burying that would take that carbon from the air and put it away for geologic time.

This would be the exact opposite of coal mining and burning.

Bruce, charcoal and coal are two very different things.  Charcoal is what you have left after you burn wood.  Coal is formed from decaying plant matter turned into peat and then compressed by weight and lots and lots of time.

 

Burning your wood to make charcoal would be exactly the opposite of what you want to achieve, because you're producing carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and sulphur dioxides in the burning process, then you're burying what's left.

 

Burying vegetation matter WITHOUT burning it would be better, because then the carbon is trapped within it without being released.  However you'd have to bury a shedload of material to make up for even a small amount of coal.