COVID-19 Virus.

[facthunter]

I don't blame them.  You have to continuously think about it. Nev

[red750]

You don't watch enoug TV or movies. Right lane for slow, left for fast and overtaking.

[Bruce Tuncks]

There was a guy who wrote about trying to get official permission to join a gliding club in India when transferred from Australia. He started 18 months before the transfer and gave up before getting permission. He had a file of correspondence 5 inches deep.

He wrote up his experiences for the local gliding mag, and the message I got was that India got the worst of British bureaucracy and eastern officialdom, mixed all up. It is impossible to get anything done there, and I am amazed that they are doing as well as they are with manufacturing.

They are not the only lot...  I once read that even the Chinese gave upon the Iranians for the same reason.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Bruce Tuncks

[Jerry_Atrick]

They to to where they are because the total cost, including all of the inefficiency is* cheaper than doing it elsewhere. Otherwise market forces would direct resources elsewhere.

 

* is = perceived to be by the bean counters. Ask anyone who has managed an offshored low cost location software team..

[facthunter]

Security , corruption, the legal system operating and social stability come into it also. Robotics cancel out low wages  Access to markets internet power  and electricity supply and raw materials reliability. Many considerations apply.    Self sufficiency/independence. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Sadly those factors only really come into play for most when a) costs are similar or b) when the risks materialise. Otherwise do you think there would have been a massive move to China and to a lesser extent, Russia?

[facthunter]

Well those factors do have a cost effect if you get them wrong. Plenty of projects get closed down by the hostile locals.  Nev

[spacesailor]

WHEN ,.

They cutout ' domestic gas ' and petrolium products. 

ALL OUR EGGS will be in one basket, ( electric ) .

AT the mercy of BIG business. 

THEN

The old BBQ WILL be outlawed! . ( no cheap cooking ). 

spacesailor

 

[pmccarthy]

Time for a comeback of the frypan.

[facthunter]

The sun's energy is freely available. You can cook with a large concave mirror or magnifying glass.. Nev

[facthunter]

After dark you'll have to rely on "MOONSHINE". Nev

[facthunter]

Anyhow back to topic. I hear the Canadians have had breakthrough in principle with fighting the Covid virus. There's a weakness in it in all strains that may lead to control. (True)  Nev

[onetrack]

I can recall an episode many years ago, when the brother and SIL purchased a fine super-shiny stainless steel mixing bowl and left it on the back seat of their HR Holden sedan on a hot summers day - with some paperwork placed in the centre of the bowl.

When they returned to the car, they found the paperwork smouldering! The bowl had concentrated the suns rays in the centre, and had almost set fire to the paper!

 

There's also the story of the fancy curved-glass sheeted building in London that was melting the plastic trim on cars parked nearby, thanks to the concentration of the suns rays.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/london-skyscraper-can-melt-cars-set-buildings-fire-8c11069092

[Jerry_Atrick]

Personally, I think it is an ugly building

[facthunter]

Maybe, but don't focus on it too much. Nev

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, facthunter said:

Anyhow back to topic. I hear the Canadians have had breakthrough in principle with fighting the Covid virus. There's a weakness in it in all strains that may lead to control. (True)  Nev

More info needed Nev

[rgmwa]

There’s a part of the virus that doesn’t change as the virus mutates. That may allow a vaccine to be developed that will be effective against all forms of the virus. Nothing guaranteed at this stage.

[Jerry_Atrick]

The pandemic has really taken its toll on travelling during peak hour. This us a photo of th 6:55 train from North Sheen, within zone 3 of London and inbound to Waterloo. Pre-pandemic you may have got a seat on a quiet day

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by Jerry_Atrick

[spacesailor]

But of course there's a few deaths to take into account for those empty seats .

China estimates 900 million  , ( sounds too many ) deaths .

I have not heard Any numbers at all this year .

someone said SHUSH.it will all blow over .

spacesailor

[Jerry_Atrick]

Yes.. I hear Aus has already stopped publishing figures and the UK is about to follow suit. Things are getting lax, and I have to admit, I have even not been quite rigorous about it; we have the 4th and 5th jabs approved and I have yet to have either. 

 

Yesterday was eerily quiet. I don't normally go to London on Wednesdays, but when I do, it is usually much busier. The weather was cold, but not unusual for this time of year - was about zero Celsius, but not chilly.. I didn't need a coat. 

 

I take the Waterloo and City Line tube from Waterloo to Bank (of England) station.. and then the central line to Liverpool Street. At close enough to 7:30, one would expect the Waterloo and City Line tube to be rammed tight... sardines have it better. Yesterday, there were a few standing, but more seats were available than people standing. At the Bank platform to catch the central line, there was nary a soul waiting and the tube I got was virtually empty. At Liverpool Street at 7:45, bearing in mind, it one of the main stations the financial services bigger banks use, it was literally deserted.. there were probably less than 100 people on the concourse at the time. I didn't take photos in case anyone got offended, but I have been there early on a Sunday morning to get a train to Stansted airport and it was busier. 

 

Yes, lots of people have been killed thanks to the pandemic, but not many in the age group of those that frequent the work place. The office was dead (pardon the pun) quiet, yesterday. 

 

I am certainly not putting my money in a pension fund with a material exposure to CBD property at the moment.

[facthunter]

Put a couple of Hotels on Mayfair and sit back and wait.  Long COVID may reduce the need for pension funds. Nev

[nomadpete]

6 hours ago, facthunter said:

Put a couple of Hotels on Mayfair and sit back and wait.  Long COVID may reduce the need for pension funds. Nev

I've been told that compulsory immunisation is what will cause that. And it's all a cunning plan by the government, to reduce the cost of age care.

[octave]

8 minutes ago, nomadpete said:

I've been told that compulsory immunisation is what will cause that. And it's all a cunning plan by the government, to reduce the cost of age care.

 

I trust you rejected that for the illogical nonsense it clearly is.

[nomadpete]

It was sarcasm. Sadly, too many people are quick to believe unfounded conspiracies.

 

I was responding to Nev's suggestion that long covid might be reducing the need for pension funds  As yet, I have not heard any research confirms Nev's assertion that long covid is causing an uptick in premature deaths. So until there is proof of it happening, I will continue to class that assertion as an unfounded fear.

[spacesailor]

nomadpete

Did you hear about the hundreds that have died from that big bush burn off Sydney had  ! .

My unconfirmed report was 400 , over 4 weeks after the '' hazard reduction '' .

That , to me , means More deaths than the fires have killed .

spacesailor