Jerry_Atrick Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 As.. new New York Post - that bastion of unbiased reporting - not! I don't know too mcuh about her, but don't doubr that she is as good, if noit better than other contenders the democrats may put up. That was a short clip of what I would guess was a longer interview. Have no idea what context that comment was in, but identifying people are taking their democracy for granted and don't appreciate what the govenment does, IMHO, does not indicate she is going to run for the White House. She may well be, but sadly, there are two things working against her (at least her hubby overcame one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Michelle Obama has little going for her as a political candidate - apart from having a famous ex-Prez hubby. I think it's just a desperate rumour by some Democrats who are concerned that voters will shy away from a bumbling, incoherent 80 yr old who's fading fast, and vote for a mouthy self-aggrandising candidate, who promises them everything they want to hear. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/joe-biden-caught-speaking-a-different-language-and-listening-to-barrel-of-beer/video/d405d7a6496d225f7f6125c792bdadeb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 In Obama's first term he still had a bit of the 'yes we can' honeymoon going for him. In the latter part of his second term, he was far more popular overseas than he was in his own country. If he was allowed to run for a third term, I very much doubt he would have won. His legacy is probably neutral for Michelle rather than on the plus side. The Democrats could be in real trouble if they don't play their cards right. A decent candidate would help, but there's no sign of one so far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 12 hours ago, rgmwa said: Michelle Obama has said she’s not interested in the job. I saw her lips moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Gavin Newsome the dem governor of California is the most likely. Young dynamic and doesn't take crap from blowhards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 34 minutes ago, Litespeed said: Gavin Newsome the dem governor of California is the most likely. Young dynamic and doesn't take crap from blowhards. Yeah, but how many movies has he been in? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 None. Someone who actually is professional at governing sounds like a good start. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Trump hasn't been in any movies either, probably apart from a few "home videos". (And yes I know he had some dodgy reality tv show.) However he got a mention in Die Hard 3, where a female cop, attempting to put across the concept of something extremely unlikely but desirable, says "Yeah - and I'm gonna marry Donald Trump!" Makes you laugh these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) He actually did a Cameo in Home Alone 2, but has been subsequently edited out. Also his presidency and beating a woman to the oval office was foretold by the Simpsons Edited January 28 by Jerry_Atrick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The Person you mention is a DEMOCRAT and Trump has no time for any of them (even though in a previous life HE supported them). He's only USING the GOP anyhow, for his OWN purposes. He won't be taking advice from any of them and refusing to do what he wants is a life threatening experience. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 A recent survey showed that about 70%-80% of Democrat/Biden voters know about Trump's various legal cases. The corresponding number for Republicans was about 35%-45%, attributed largely to the right wing media's lack of interest in reporting on Trump's problems. About 50% of Independents were aware. If Trump gets convicted of any of the criminal charges he's up for, the Independents will probably take notice, so that could stack the odds against him in the election, despite his army of loyal and uninformed supporters. On the other hand, there's a fair chance that the Supreme Court may conclude that he's not even eligible to be on the ballot, based on the the original post-civil war intent of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution. Not that they can be relied on to either interpret it that way or provide a ruling before the election. It will be an interesting few months. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 5 hours ago, rgmwa said: based on the the original post-civil war intent of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution Those who were barred from standing in the immediate post-Civil War years had clearly participated in actions that would have disunited the Nation. They were the generals and politicians who lead the Confederacy and actually anyone who gave it support from the soldiers to those who clothed and fed the armies. I don't think anyone was actually tried and convicted, but if they were, it would have been a certainty that they would have been convicted. In Trump's case, while I understand that he called on his supporters to come the Washington, I don't know if there is any evidence that he actually uttered words that urged his supporters to do what they did. Words of that sort would secure a conviction, but no one has laid a charge. That would be akin to firing on Fort Sumter. I find those survey results astounding considering the media attention given to all those matters. It makes one wonder at the effectiveness of the US media. Or does it illustrate the something in the society's culture. My initial thought as to what that "something" might be is self-centredness. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Trump’s insurrection charge is that he violated the Constitution by refusing to peacefully transfer power as it requires. It’s ithe actions he took to obstruct the process that matter more than what he actually said to his followers. When the media itself is polarised the public just listens to the side they want to hear. Those that are even interested in what’s going on that is, which is only half the country. The rest have tuned out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 hours ago, old man emu said: They were the generals and politicians who lead the Confederacy and actually anyone who gave it support from the soldiers to those who clothed and fed the armies. I don't think anyone was actually tried and convicted, but if they were, it would have been a certainty that they would have been convicted. Confederate president Jefferson Davis spent a couple of years in prison, but his case never went to trial. He was out on bail when the U.S. president granted an amnesty to all participants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I getting sick and tired of Yanks. They are obviously heading for self-destruction, but before that they will start World War III. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 It is the modern empire in decline and it has been going on for some years now. They just can't seem to accept that they are no longer the worlds police force and can't understand why nobody likes them any more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kgwilson Posted February 4 Popular Post Share Posted February 4 3 Americans get killed in Jordan and they unleash millions of dollars worth of missiles at multiple targets. The fact that 27,000 Palestinian civilians have now been killed is just Israel defending itself. And they don't have the balls to stand up to Putin & have no way to counter Xi either. There are millions of them who support a malignant narcissist compulsive liar with dementia & the rest support a geriatric who forgets his lines but does appear sort of sane. Their politically appointed judiciary ensures no genuine justice if it doesn't suit the current political agenda and the court system takes decades to finalise a case with a seemingly never ending appeal process. But if you have plenty of money things flow and things get done. The real problem is the massive gap between the super rich and poor which has been widening at an ever increasing pace. Bernie Sanders said the other night on the ABC that there a 2 individuals (Bezos and Musk) with more wealth than the bottom 40% of the population. They are heading for self destruction but I hope they don't take the rest of us with them 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 It grinds on like it's inevitable. Why do the Muslims all want to go to America and England or Europe?? Because it's a BETTER place to live. IF anyone "escapes" to another place they go after them.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, kgwilson said: 3 Americans get killed in Jordan and they unleash millions of dollars worth of missiles That's because Black Lives Matter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Good job it wasn't 3 Brazilian Americans that got killed - when they got that news, they'd have nuked the whole Arabian peninsula. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 "THEY can't do that to OUR blokes" Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Yeah, it smacks of rank hypocrisy- small wonder that good ole Yew Hess Hay doesn't get much respect globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 During WW2 they were Over paid Over sexed and Over Here. The sheila's loved it. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Just now, facthunter said: During WW2 they were Over paid Over sexed and Over Here. The sheila's loved it. Nev Careful Nev. My mum and my aunt had a bit of trouble with that in '42. And added 'they' were over fed as well as over paid and over sexed. They reckoned that the yanks wouldn't even land in New Guinea until the mess got ice cream delivered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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