willedoo Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 The question with the ISS now is how long it will continue to operate. Russia has participation obligations until 2025 at this stage. After that date, they're expecting the failure of a lot of components due to age. The Russian president has just signed off on plans to put up their own space station (named ROSS), which could be ready for deployment after 2024. The plans are for a relatively small station of from three to seven modules, able to house up to four cosmonauts. Roscosmos has also signed a moon exploration deal with China where they will share a Lunar station. It's early days yet to predict the ISS end of life, but I can't see how it could continue to operate without the Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 I think the future of ISS will be commercial rather than government. NASA & Axiom Space Designing Commercial Expansion Of Space Station Also just announced As Artemis Moves Forward, NASA Picks SpaceX to Land Next Americans on Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 NASA’s Perseverance Rover Just Turned Martian CO2 Into Oxygen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I reckon the astronauts who have volunteered to go into space on a SpaceX rocket, must be the biggest guinea pigs around, when you see SpaceX's abysmal record of successful rocket launches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, onetrack said: I reckon the astronauts who have volunteered to go into space on a SpaceX rocket, must be the biggest guinea pigs around, when you see SpaceX's abysmal record of successful rocket launches. Space x in general has a great record being the only private company to launch people into space (crew dragon.) A crew dragon launch is coming up soon. If you are talking about starship, it is early days similar to the early days of NASA. Rockets exploded all the time. The good thing about Space x is its iterative approach. It is not a case of launch a rocket and it explodes so launch another and hope it works. If you follow it closely you will see that each launch fixes a number of problems. NASA has chosen Space X for both transport crews to ISS and as the preferred partner for the Artimis program. Before anyone travels on starship there will be many successful tests including an uncrewed moon landing. This is an interesting interview with Elon Musk and the head of NASA, Jim Bridenstine. Bridenstine makes the the point that it could not use the approach that space x uses for political and PR reasons, this is why it is the ideal partnership. At the 4:26 point of this video Jim Bridenstine articulates why its partnership with space x is so productive. Exclusive interview with Elon Musk and Jim Bridenstine about SpaceX's first crewed launch! I would not hop aboard a starship yet but then I would not have hopped aboard the wright flyer either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 17/04/2021 at 3:17 PM, octave said: I think the future of ISS will be commercial rather than government. NASA & Axiom Space Designing Commercial Expansion Of Space Station Also just announced As Artemis Moves Forward, NASA Picks SpaceX to Land Next Americans on Moon It makes sense to use what sections they can of the ISS to build something new. The Russian section has had it's day. It provides the propulsion systems for the ISS and most of the life support systems, but there's all probability that new modular systems could be added to replace them. A bit like grafting a new head on an old body. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Spot on, Willedo. Any talk of de-orbiting this massive station is crazy. Even if they keep it up there for scrap, it’s worth the effort. It cost billions to get all that metal up there, so why dump it in the ocean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 i believe the plan is to gradually add commercial modules with there own power supply (solar panels etc) and when the commercial sections are self sufficient the old iss may be deorbited. It will be a bit like Paddy's axe. Here is a video that explains the plan at this stage. NASA & Axiom Space Designing Commercial Expansion Of Space Station 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 Watch NASA's SpaceX Crew-2 Launch to the International Space Station 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 43 minutes ago, octave said: Watch NASA's SpaceX Crew-2 Launch to the International Space Station Interesting to see them following a tradition of signing their names on the wall. If you go up in the Soyuz, the tradition is to pee on the rear wheel of the crew bus. Even Valentina Tereshkova did it. All started by Yuri Gagarin having to make a pit stop on the way to the launch pad. I don't know if the foreign astronauts do it on the Soyuz launches or just the Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) Video describing the Soyuz two orbit, three hour technique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUi0yWc5Dnw Edited April 24, 2021 by willedoo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 24, 2021 Author Share Posted April 24, 2021 Crew-2 Mission | Approach and Docking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 Astronaut Michael Collins, Apollo 11 pilot, dies of cancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Interview with the new director of the ISS. https://www.miragenews.com/envisioning-a-low-earth-orbit-economy-552515/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I see that on Thursday, China launched into space the core module of their proposed space station. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 SpaceX's Starship SN15 prototype successfully lands in one piece No explosions so far. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 We now have a 21 ton Chinese rocket booster landing where we know NOT in a few days. Surprised MORE hasn't been said about it. Last I monitored it, it was 230Kms up and doing 27000kms/hr . It's unlikely to all burn up on re-entry. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Make a great ' coffee table ' talking ' found it' . spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Somewhere in the Pacific, last I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 WHO'S FOR A SWIM ?. Is the water still warm ?. OOOPs wrong coast. Any chance of Coral coast, it's warmer, Always. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Marty_d said: Somewhere in the Pacific, last I heard. That's what the yanks said - right up until spacelab crashed onto Australian soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 The report I read on the ABC news said the last indicated splash point for the Chinese rocket, was in the Indian Ocean to the West of W.A. Perhaps we'll have another Skylab! The original one was a ripper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It can't be predicted with any accuracy at all, until maybe the last few hours. Too many unknowns. The fact it's tumbling is one of them, PLUS it's going very fast so a small time means a large distance. A fairly large lump should remain so it may be spectacular. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 The scientists haven't got a clue at present, even though they're predicting a re-entry on Sunday May 9 at 03:43UTC. That makes for it landing in Africa. But then they add, + or - 16hrs! It could be anywhere, with that level of forward planning accuracy! https://aerospace.org/reentries/cz-5b-rocket-body-id-48275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Some information on China's space station. https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/05/chinas-tiangong-space-station-what-it-is-what-its-for-and-how-to-see-it/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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