facthunter Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 What we need is a rapid response to a changed LOAD. situation Nuclear or Coal won't DO that and the Price of operating NEW generators is way up from what we pay now for the older facilities. Bring the FACTS out I'm not afraid of that. Not BS propaganda from the vested Interests brigade. Storage Batteries and pump hydro and HYDROGEN from surplus renewables. Easier cheaper and quicker. Coal will only get more expensive as the easy picked fruit gets accessed first and it IS the problem .Not the answer. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Australia's coal lobby has thrown money at politicians and media companies in a desperate campaign to protect the market power that they are about to lose. They even have NLP reps pushing for taxpayer-subsidised coal burners to prop up this dirty industry. China is building railways and other infrastructure to access its own coal and other emerging markets know that solar is already cheaper than coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 " And won't return a dollar for at least 10 more. " UK's Calder Hall plant, must have given lot's of Pounds back to it's investors, After the 56 opening. 50 years of clean power !. "four Magnox reactors became operational in 1956 at Calder Hall, " spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 The Chinese are developing lots of coal mines for a good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 They're also pushing ahead with renewables at a rate that makes our efforts look shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 What do you think of the current legal attack on the SA windfarm people by this government ( through one of their instrumentalities)? THAT wouldn't be political, would it? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 We all know that the windfarms caused the power lines to collapse, leading to a surge in demand which caused the safety methods to trip. I just wonder if the government and power companies can get the investigating bodies to fall in line with that thinking. They probably can, given the stupidity we are witnessing nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 What do you think of the current legal attack on the SA windfarm people by this government ( through one of their instrumentalities)? THAT wouldn't be political, would it? Nev Coal-burners have been known to fail and cause problems for electricity supply. Has any legal action been launched against them? Renewables didn't cause the blackout, but in the end, the truth doesn't actually matter. What matters is how much wool can be pulled over peoples' eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 AGL's Gas generator in western VIC has failed and won't be back on line for ages. I guess that's caused by those windmills too. Naughty wind farms. Abot says they are some devil thing.. Has he lost the plot or something. He is known for lengthy dummy spits and hates being beaten, especially by a Woman. Sometimes I think there is a dog. Steggall is not a climate denier. The electorate has spoken.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 ... Abot says they are some devil thing.. Has he lost the plot or something. He HAD the plot once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 ...Naughty wind farms. Abot says they are some devil thing.. Has he lost the plot or something. He is known for lengthy dummy spits and hates being beaten, especially by a Woman. Sometimes I think there is a dog... Dog moves in mysterious ways, Nev. The mad monk is apparently a keynote speaker at a big right-wing forum. Lets hope they follow his advice...to electoral oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I say that we are now in the "Post truth era". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Once you are a proven LIAR it should be OVER for taking any notice of them afterwards. There is no value placed on truth and it spoils a lot of good stories but what else should we be guided by? They have worked hard to obscure it and make it difficult to access, as they get more money and POWER that way, and that's ALL they care about. Ba$tard$, all of them. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 I agree with New. Once one lies no further statements are trustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 No you can trust they are lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 "Once you are a proven LIAR it should be OVER for taking any notice of them afterwards" Gillard still survived. Now when she opens her mouth we ALL shout "she's lying". spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 She broke one election promise and the mad monk labelled her "Ju-liar". The libs broke dozens and they just got re-elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Julia might hold the record for breaking the least promises, but the Murdoch media didn't tell that story. She also holds a record for being the most successful PM of a minority government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 The so called lie was about it being a TAX (and THAT was the NUB of the discussion at the TIME) and always quoted out of context by those who used it. to GET Gillard. Even Credlin admitted it was NEVER a tax, about a year or so ago, but it did the job, didn't it. Similar to Trumps "birther" statements (LIES) about Obama.. Lies pay off apparently. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Julia was the best prime minister we ever had, and I've lived through plenty. Gosh it was a pity she never had a fair go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 "It was many other things in nomenclature terms but we made it a carbon tax. We made it a fight about the hip pocket and not about the environment". Peta Credlin. Just for those who ain't got the message yet. This is straight from the "horse's mouth". Just refer to my previous post. This is a post truth era. A lie will trump truth when it gets enough publicity. I mourn for this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 The RAT race is over ... The RATS won . & Talk about political interference by overseas interests. Mudroch anyone? Has a monopoly north of the Tweed. Is it the truth or did you read it in the Paper? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 The RAT race is over ... The RATS won .& Talk about political interference by overseas interests. Mudroch anyone? Has a monopoly north of the Tweed. Is it the truth or did you read it in the Paper? Nev [ATTACH]50209._xfImport[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Good ol Terrorgraph. Always count on it.to be unreal.. Jones just got his contract renewed.. Peace on Earth and good weil to all men. No mention of the WO men. Long live Patriarchal religions. MAN would be lost without them. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Perry Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 More Heresy. . . .hasn't anyone told this ex Greenpeace clown that the science is settled beyond any argument ? Burn the witch ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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