facthunter Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago As far as I know the aboriginal languages have NEVER been in written form, and "their" FLAG is a recent thing. An indigenous guide I had at Uluru one time was from Katherine and couldn't understand one word of the Local Lingo all of whom lived well out of town which is Ultra Modern, Costly and thoroughly out of character.. IMHO. Nev
old man emu Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago While it is reasonable to use indigenous words that had/have meaning in the speech of the people who used them, it is ridiculous to apply words for things that did not exist for those people. As an example, would the concept of "stairway" ever have existed until stairways had been introduced by people who made them? I believe that when the first overland explorers reached northern Australia, near the ocean, the local indigines saw the rifles of the explorers and immediately called them 'musquit' or similar. The reason? They had seen the muskets of the Dutch and Malays who came to fish in the area before the British explorers arrived from the South. The explorers would have been carrying rifles.
octave Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 minutes ago, onetrack said: The bulk of the place names in W.A. are Anglicised from the local Aboriginal dialects, and often are quite inaccurate in the translation - to the extent, that a pronunciation of the proper Aboriginal name of those places would be nearly impossible for most people. I don't really see the problem here. I am sure there are British place names from old English and probably have changed over time. I search the name of the village I lived in Mongarlowe. As far as I know there are no other towns with that name. Yes it is probably is not pronounced accurately. Do people have a problem with Woolomaloo? 1
old man emu Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It's NOT the names of localities that is the problem. It's the use of alledgedly indigenous words to describe things that did not exist before European arrival. 1
octave Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, old man emu said: It's NOT the names of localities that is the problem. It's the use of alledgedly indigenous words to describe things that did not exist before European arrival. Surely after white settlement Aborigines developed words for new things introduced by settlers. Prior to settlement I imagine that Aborigines had never seen a horse or camel but I imagine just like any language it develops new words for new things. Often perhaps in this case the word may be the same as English or perhaps similar. In the case of Naala Badu it supposedly means "seeing waters" which refers to the view. This seems relevant to the location. Am I missing something here? Edited 24 minutes ago by octave 1
facthunter Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago It's logical for them to assign another word/name for any NEW Object or Phenomenon they observe as all peoples have done. Nev.
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