Albo to the rescue

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

2 hours ago, randomx said:

Yeah l agree. But who the hell else do we vote for , there's no one and anyone a little different like Pauline- dangerous in other ways anyway, will never get enough to be in so isn't that a waste of that vote. But then who do you put that vote onto? We must have the most useless pollies on the planet.

Hasn't been anyone special in this country for decades that had any real shot and that wouldn't stuff the place even more.

 

The major parties have it all rigged to allow themselves to rule Australia for as long as they think they can get away with it. Notice how they have timelines of 2030 for fulfilling climate policy, and 2050 for nuclear submarine policy. They know they'll still be ruling Australia by then. So what's the use of voting. The major parties close ranks when they feel threatened. They jailed Hanson to show her who is boss.

 

Members of the major parties have committed murder, fraud, and sex offenses. Why wouldn't they let a few muslem wives and children of fanatical head decapitating muslem ISIS terrorists back in? Way to go for the Labor government. The excuse is: "They are citizens of Australia" - yeah, but who wants them here?

 

I stopped voting altogether, I pay the tyrannical fines instead. Compulsory voting is just another way to keep the system rigged in favor of the ALP/Coalition duopoly. If it wasn't beneficial to them, we'd be voting another way, which ever way it takes to benefit the Duopoly.

 

When a democracy is rigged, the ultimate protest is to simply stop voting.

 

 

[octave]

14 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

When a democracy is rigged, the ultimate protest is to simply stop voting.

And how is that working out for you?   Poor voting turnout does not stick it to the pollies.  Most countries don't have compulsory voting and have low turnouts, but so what?   Willingly paying fines when you say you are struggling to pay your power bills seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

 

How does not voting achieve anything?

[facthunter]

Dicktators love THAT idea. Your MATE, TRUMP Does too, and frequently says so. He's $#!t Scared of the Peoples FREE Vote.    AND DYING. Nev

[onetrack]

Trump would love to have millions not vote - then only his MAGA supporters would vote - and then, he'd become KING of America, FOREVER!!

[octave]

Republican efforts to restrict voting following the 2020 United States presidential election

[facthunter]

He's already said "You will NEVER have to Vote again" He's even scared of the Mid Terms. . Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

1 hour ago, octave said:

Willingly paying fines when you say you are struggling to pay your power bills seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I'm not struggling to pay my power bills, but I do have an opinion about them being too high. We were promised lower power costs, then got the opposite.

[octave]

Just now, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

I'm not struggling to pay my power bills, but I do have an opinion about them being too high. We were promised lower power costs, then got the opposite.

OK, but I have trouble following your logic. You hate political parties, and therefore, I assume, the government. You stick it to them by not voting (which they would hardly notice), and you get a fine, which you pay to whom?   THE GOVERNMENT. Personally, I want to spend my money on things that make me happy, not send it to the government. Perhaps a strongly worded letter might be more cost-effective.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

17 minutes ago, octave said:

You stick it to them by not voting (which they would hardly notice), and you get a fine, which you pay to whom?   THE GOVERNMENT.

I think the fine ends up as a form of charity that goes to battered wives and the homeless, which the government caused in the first place. It's a vicious circle, but the fine does more good than my vote ever would, because I could never stomach voting for the dictatorial two party duopoly, they always win no matter what, and they always intend to.

 

And of course, I can't forget the inhuman treatment afforded to me as a conscript, not thanked, not compensated, just treated like trash during and after. I can't vote for any mob who treats young blokes with borderline autism like that, I'm not that forgiving. They can rot in Hell.

[red750]

Yada yada yada.

[facthunter]

You are one of those who EXPECT the gov't to Wipe your ass  and provide all the services but  don't vote or care about who gets elected  or want to Pay for Gov't services. WE are SICK of hearing about you being called up. That was a Ballot and you lost. Others served Overseas and Many got traumatised. You got free training and met a few People you otherwise would not have. It's OVER Rover. Stop Bitching and get on with the rest of your Life. You are NOT the Only ONE who has had a $#!t deal at some stage..  Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

That was a Ballot and you lost.

You're dead right about that, I lost. Glad you put it that way.

 

Trump got it right, we were suckers and losers.

 

Let's make sure criminal ballots like that never happen again.

[facthunter]

It's a way of  No bias random Picking when you have More to Pick from than you need. How would you recommend it be done instead?  Nev

[Siso]

19 hours ago, facthunter said:

 WE are SICK of hearing about you being called up. 

Please don't speak for me. Would have been better if you said "I" or maybe "some of us".

[facthunter]

OK. MOST of US then, Mr Picky.

[old man emu]

5 hours ago, facthunter said:

OK. MOST of US then, Mr Picky.

A very small cohort of members are not sick of it.

[red750]

Not Albo personally, but ALP  minister Anika Wells. Thousands of taxpayer dollars for air fares to fly her husband and kids to three AFL grand finals and two interstate tests. And they claim it doesn't breach guidelines. Obviously the guidelines need an urgent overhaul. 

 

If any of us wanted to fly our partner around the country, we'd have to pay for it ourselves. And I bet she's earning a hell of a lot more than any of us. And before you go calling me out for ALP bashing, I would be just as disgusted if it was a LNP member.

[Marty_d]

Yeah that one doesn't pass the sniff test in a cost of living crisis.

I think if Albo reads the room he should cut her loose and tell his ministers that just adherence to the letter of the rules is not enough.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Defo not a good look. What happens will depend on her influence in him retaining power

[facthunter]

It was  a Last Minute decision to go to a very Important meeting . That's why the Airfares cost was HIGH. The sport attendance is less simple. Not sure Chalmers is that happy. The Lib/Nats were More practised at those sorts of things, SUSSan Ley fell foul of it. Not a Good look but  getting a big rev up in the news as one would expect.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Didn't Bronwyn Bishop's career end over a helicopter jolly?

[facthunter]

Yes it did. She took it  from Essendon to Geelong. She's still called HELICOPTER Bishop.  Nev

[onetrack]

Anika Wells has to go, she makes Chopper Bronnie look good. What a prime "snout in the trough" merchant, Wells is.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-09/wells-spends-thousands-on-comcars-for-grand-finals/106117742

[facthunter]

Doing a Pretty  good job in her Folios though, if that means anything.   Nev

[Marty_d]

She might be good, but if she's so disconnected to the general population that she thinks taking kids to ski trips and sporting events on the taxpayer dime, when she gets a substantial salary herself, is a good idea, she's either out of touch or greedy.