red750 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 We are used to seeing news reports about aircraft icidents and accidents, and they are always "Cessnas". The same with military stuff. Many reports about the shooting down of balloons or other "objects", stating that they were shot down by an F-16, and showing photos of F-22 or F-35's. "Michigan Congressman Jack Bergman told Fox News the mysterious "octagonal" object was shot down by a US Air Force F-16 fighter jet." - Reuters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Are you still referencing FOX News. It's Unadulterated BS mate. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 The confusion is that the object over Lake Huron was shot down by a F-16, while the others were shot down by F-22's. Considering a balloon was the first combat kill for the F-22 Raptor, some smart alec called it the F-22 Rupture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I'd hardly call shooting an almost stationary, unarmed item the size of 2 busses a combat kill. What would have been news is if the missile had missed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Yes. hardly a combat mission.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 If the US really wanted to know how the F22 would perform in combat they should lend a few to Ukraine after training up some of their pilots. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 During WWI, it counted as a kill if a pilot shot down a tethered observation balloon over the tranches. But I suppose doing that while being shot at by ground fire does count as being in combat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Sorry blokes, when I wrote combat kill, I was being sarcastic, not serious. Since the first F-22 balloon shootdown, the aircraft has been the butt of a lot of jokes and memes. Like one that depicted a Raptor with one balloon and two UFO's painted on the side as kills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, old man emu said: During WWI, it counted as a kill if a pilot shot down a tethered observation balloon over the tranches. But I suppose doing that while being shot at by ground fire does count as being in combat. WW2 as well. A manned observation balloon directing artillery is a hostile enemy aircraft by any description. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I wonder if popping a barrage balloon counted as a kill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, old man emu said: I wonder if popping a barrage balloon counted as a kill. Good question. Not sure whether five balloons would make you an ace though. I would guess ground attack aircraft count their kills in tanks, armoured vehicles etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 The Air Force May Have Actually Shot Down a Wholesome Ham Radio Balloon Jumping at shadows...read this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, red750 said: The Air Force May Have Actually Shot Down a Wholesome Ham Radio Balloon Maybe good for a bit of Nah-Nahing, but what if "a silver mylar 32-inch sphere, carrying a GPS module, some basic computer and communications gear, and was powered by a solar panel with a payload of 4 pounds" went through the intake of your airliner's engine intake? Larger balloons require FAA clearance, but these little balloons circumvent that requirement. Guess, therefore, where the people who launch these come from. But Heaven help legislator's who trial to curtail those peoples "Rights". Better to destroy millions in aircraft components and endanger hundreds of lives than to remove a perceived "right to freedom of expression". Next thing the FBI will be raiding 5-year-olds' birthday parties to pop the decorations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 How many airliners have crashed as a result of hitting a civilian balloon? My guess is that the answer is none. Even if the one in millions chance came off, at worst it would only take out one engine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Guess were they come from ! , Easy Blooody " farmers " checking stock & weather , I have only seen , weather balloons in rural Queensland. Never down town Sydney or Melbourne. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 If you were (and presumably are( a member of RVAC you would see plenty during the balloon bursting comps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 RVAC ! , Victoria , one state from many states & territories . SO What are the 'balloon bursting comps ' . ? spacesailor NRMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I believe the Americans are currently indulging in high-altitude balloon-bursting comps. Bit of a shame the spectators can't see much over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, spacesailor said: What are the 'balloon bursting comps ' . ? When I was a member, they would release meteorological balloons over Port Philip Bay, and we had to burst theeem within a period of time... Can't recall what it was.. It was a great way to hone flying skills (as was theree hands free (accurately should have been called control column free) circuits, flower bombing, and ribbon cutting comps.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 With your ammo drums loaded with Buckingham, I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Sidewinders on a PA28.. bugger of a kickback, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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