GRIPES

[spacesailor]

She really put a show of hating  T A Bot .

If looks could kill .

spacesailor

[Marty_d]

I hate Tony Abbott too.

Doesn't mean I hate all men.

 

Just like I hate Gina Rinehart but not all women.

Edited May 21 by Marty_d

[facthunter]

SHE was reacting to what A Bot had just  said. in any other workplace he would have been admonished.  Nev

[facthunter]

Gorgeous GINA IS something else. SHE funds the IPA. ALL tax deductable. Gave Barnaby Joyce 60K pocket money. It's not what you know, Its WHO you know.  Nev

[red750]

Well, that's it. I can't log into Facebook. They demand that I take a video of my face using the camera on my laptop. turning from side to side so they can identify me. Bullshit. They could use it to make an AI Deepfake. I can't log into my account until I upload the video.

[onetrack]

What started this off? I give FB bugger-all, and they've never made a demand like that to me. Yet I can log in, post, sell and buy, message and interact with people on there, no problem.

I don't even use my real name or even a photo of myself. I trust FB and it's grubby owner, like I trust a cornered black snake.

[red750]

I was just sitting here scrolling through, looking at the Wheel of Fortune screens when the screen went blank and the demand popped up. 

[red750]

Here is the message I get when I try to log in.

 

[old man emu]

What if you don't have a laptop, or a camera on your desktop?

[spacesailor]

Use a doll . A barbie doll will confuse them .

And they're cheap as chips at " op-shops " .

spacesailor

[Marty_d]

I'd be careful.  I'm not a facebook user myself, but my wife is, and she's never been asked to make a video of her face.  Possibly not FB but some kind of malware.

 

[octave]

How are we using facial recognition technology to confirm your identity?

 

It is to confirm your identity if they believe your account has been compromised. There is an option if you do not wish to submit a video.

 

• If our automated system can't confirm a match or if you choose not to use facial recognition technology, your selfie may go through manual review or you may be asked to confirm your identity another way.

Edited June 8 by octave

[onetrack]

I'd just start a new account. I thought it could be a hacker scam, but it's apparently true that FB is using facial recognition videos. There's no way I'd provide that to a faceless, soulless, ruthless website operator, that only communicates with you when it suits them.

 

https://www.waka.com/2024/11/25/what-the-tech-locked-out-of-your-facebook-account-use-your-face-to-get-back-in/#:~:text=While Meta assures users that,between security and user experience.

[red750]

3 hours ago, old man emu said:

What if you don't have a laptop, or a camera on your desktop?

There was an info page where you could put more info.I said the computers at the Men's Shed were old office desktops with monitors that didn't have cameras attached so facial recognition was useless. We'll see if I get any response. I think that was where the problem arose. I tried logging in and they sent a security code to my phone, but it was flat.

[pmccarthy]

Sounds like a scam to me. I get a lock down threat from time to time but ctrl.alt.del gets rid of it.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Self Service: I am not sure which was fuirst, but in early days it was supermarkets, nixknamed self-serves. Then petrol stations or garages, as they are called here. And I get it.. improved efficiency gets customers through their experience quicker, drops the prices, and makes money. Good. Of course now we have self0serve checkouts, and these are a little problematic it turns out, but technology will catch up to make it harder to get away with, literally, daylight robbery. 

 

But we also have self service for business functions, where it has to be said, is not necessarily the best way forward. I am converting contractors to permanent employees and I gave one of my contractors an extended period to stay as a contractor an account of quirks in our holiday policy. I came under pressure from more senior management to rein the notice back, so I popped a quick email to HR to let me know the implications. The response - all of our policies are self-service now, here is a link, pls read it. I responded by asking if she didn't know their policy and her response was of course she did. So I responded, "Don't you think it would be a lot cheaper for you to spend 5 or even 10 minutes emailing me the answer, than for me to spend an hour reading the policy, and if I didn't quite understand it, having this exchange, anyway?"

 

Not had a response, yet. But, this form of self service speeds nothing up - slows stuff down, doesn't reduce the number of staff we need, and costs more. 

[red750]

Speaking of self serve supermarkets, Coles and Woolies at Forest Hill have installed electric sliding doors at the exit to the self serve registers. I guess they are supposed to stop people walking out without paying, but they stop every second customer, and the supervisor of the self serve section has to press a button to open them. They never check if the person stopped has unpaid-for goods, but holds up 3 or 4 customer while the supervisor assists someone having difficulty scanning their goods. Definitely not saving, just pi**ing off the customers. Open for one, and 3 walk out.

[Marty_d]

High crime area?

[red750]

Not particularly.

[red750]

The RBA keeps the Cash Rate on hold, dashing the hopes of mortgage holders and prospective home buyers.

[Jerry_Atrick]

The cash rate is 3.85%; hardly bank breaking if everyone listened to advice and didn't max out during the extended period of low interest rates. It is the ling term normal rate

[red750]

Banks and economists were predicting a drop, with another possible before the end of the year. Some banks have dropped their rates in anticipation.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Banks and economists get predictions wrong all the time.. 

[onetrack]

I spent most of my business career paying interest rates at levels between 8% and 23% (the bad days of 1981-1983) - and I even got stung for a 30% interest rate on a hire purchase contract, during 1981. The deal was essentially illegal, but Esanda got away with it.

What happened was, I purchased a used motor grader off a bloke in Albany, W.A. who had recently financed it through Esanda at 23% on a HP contract.

 

This bloke decided the grader was too big for him, and wanted to get out of it. I had a medium-size older grader that he agreed to take as a trade-in, for the bigger, newer grader, that I needed.

Often, when I acquired another machine off another contractor, I could arrange to simply take over the finance contract from the finance house involved. I had good relationships with nearly all the major equipment financiers, so it wasn't hard to do.

 

However, when I asked Esanda if I could take over the grader owners contract, they agreed - but then, they promptly turned around and said, "Oh, hang on, things have changed as regards interest rates, we will have to write up a new contract for the deal - and the interest rate is now 30%!"

 

I was furious, because it was a simple deal to just transfer the contract, as had been done many times before - but no-o-o, Esanda got greedy. I had no choice but to pay the asking rate, as all HP interest rates from all the financiers had rocketed accordingly, in previous months.

 

A few years later, Esanda was taken to court by a farmer over a similar stunt they had pulled on him. This farmer had purchased a harvester on seasonal payments. In that case, the HP payments are made in one amount, directly after each harvest, over 3 or 4 years, generally.

 

But this farmer had encountered a particularly bad drought year, and didn't have the funds that year to make that after-harvest payment - so he asked Esanda for a years deferment on the HP contract.

In essence, the HP contract was merely extended for a year, and all the remaining payments under the original contract were made a year behind schedule, with normally, an additional agreed interest amount added for the delay in the contract payments.

 

But after the farmer asked for the extension, Esanda lobbed a big money grab on the farmer, claiming that the delay in payment meant a new contract had to be drawn up - at much higher interest rates!

So ... the farmer paid the new contract out, under the new agreed time frame, and vastly increased interest rate - but, then he took Esanda to court, claiming he'd been shafted with the whole deal - which he had been, of course.

 

The judge agreed, stating there was no way that Esanda could draw up another contract for the same machine, at a vastly-inflated interest rate - because the contract extension was merely just that - an extension of an existing contract. Esanda had to repay the extra monies to the farmer - and in addition, they were forced to go back through their books and dig up all the other HP contract holders that  they'd shafted in a similar manner. 

 

In my case, I lost out, because the grader deal was regarded as a new contract, thanks to the machine changing hands. But in the past, Esanda accepted the changeover as merely a continuation of the former contract by the initial purchaser. The finance houses always try to write the rules to suit their own ends.

 

[red750]

Todays Melbourne Herald Sun was 80 pages thick. In that, there were about 12 pages of news. The rest was full page, full colour advertisements. The price is $3.20. You shouldn't have to pay for a catalogue. Like paying for Foxtel and getting 10 - 12 commercials each ad break,  often the same commercial twice in the one ad break. You only get about 40 minutes program in a 1 hour timeslot.