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11 hours ago, red750 said:

Don't know the story of the lines, but it looks like Lakeside Drive Albert Park, The F1 circuit.

Correct, i dont understand it as well

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Isn't the lane on the right, the pit lane? In F1 racing, where the speeds are terrific, they need to have a pit lane to allow separation of the cars entering and leaving the pits, due to the huge variation in the race car speeds, and the much lower speeds of the cars entering and leaving the pits.

There have been many serious prangs in past decades due to collisions between cars racing past the pits at extreme speeds, and the cars entering or leaving the pits.

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5 hours ago, facthunter said:

There's a lot more Labor supporters that you are writing OFF.  Nev

Arguing devil's advocate, there's a lot of PHON supporters too, and Trump himself got 70m votes.

The numbers don't reflect good choices sometimes.

What's worse is the LNP tearing itself to bits with Angus and his far right mates totally ignoring the lessons of the last election and trying to emulate Pauline.

What sort of opposition is that?

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There are striking similarities between UK and AUS politics. Normally, I would say to predict what is going to happen politically in the UK, just look at Australia's recent past. 

 

The libs impending implosion and the lurch to the right are the two exceptions, where the UK leads, but Australia is following. The conservatives have been out of ideas and losing relevance for a long time. Brexit was a way they could lay the blame of the malaise they imposed on the country and solve it in one foul swoop. Of course, when that didn't work and the chickens came home to roost, it showed how hollow they were - out of touch with the electorate; out of touch with business; out of touch woth foreign policy.. the party kept on proffering candidates who seemed to be stuck in the old colonial days. Brexit initially delivered the conservatives a large swing from Labour. But they have no oether swung back, or swung to Reform - Nigel Farage. Brexit was a protest vote - people who were on the margins, which seemingly more and more of what should be the middle classes find themselves. 

 

Conservatives followed suit - their party in disarray, not representing the rank and file. First, they tried emulating reform. Once it became clear that conservative voters had shifted, so too have some of the lesser qualified conservative MPs. Reform took third place in the popular vote in the last elections; I would say they are even money, if not staring down taking first place of the popular vote at the next. They are unlikely to grab the premiership due to the concentration of  their votes, but taking the popular vote is a big boost. Yet, their policies will hurt the ones that vote for them most. 

 

Australia is heading that way. The Libs are more and more irrelevant. They have a habit of nominating candidates that are less and less competent. Lib voters are moving to PHON. As the Libs implde, some will see the personal value of defecting to PHON. Labor lost some ground in the primary vote in the last polls. That is probably more attributed to Bondi and general incumbent blues than a shift to PHON at this stage. There has been no Brexit moment to pull Labor voters away. But, there are things creeping in that may move Labor voters at a higher rate. There is stuff like the NACC, where Labor have proved not much better than the Libs at the end of the day. That is minor in the scheme of things, but these sorts of things that can be the straw that breaks the camel's back, Despite Australia looking after its poorer and lower mddle classes better that the UK, we are seeing a wider gap between the haves and the have nots; we are seeing constantly increasing costs of lving, and hot topics like property rental and purhcase prices spiralling continues unabated. The result, more and more people will feel forgotten, get pi55ed off and cast their prtest vote. 

 

The difference between the UK and Australia is that voting in Australia is compulsory (or at least getting your name marked off the electoral roll is, anyway). This will mean those thast are p155ed off are more likely to cast a protest vote than in the UK, because many who would say normally vote conservative wouldn't turn up for the election - which happened in the last UK general election. Of course, Australia has a preferential system rather than first past the post, so that works in favour of keeing PHONies out., But don't bet on it. 

 

Libs and Labor have lessons to learn if they don't want a rabid right wing mob with significant power. 

 

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PHON has NOT got ONE Lower House Seat OR any Policies other that RACIST hate ( which changes according to the Occasion) and Bagging Labor She's Funded By Gina Reinhart who is worth 37 Billion and some of that  Assistance ? will (and is ) coming under scrutiny. All the People rushing to Her are Malcontents and mostly Nats who have  a complex situation in ARE in Queensland where there is ONLY a  SINGLE Party. Hansens Popularity is Highest in Qld. HER approval rating is Only Based on Polling of a relatively small number of People. Murdoch is Pushing her but the Main damage is caused by the Behaviour of the NP to their Partner. in the Unholy alliance, called the Coalition  whose Main Purpose, Particularly Lately was to Keep Labor Out. The NP more supports Coal and GAS interests than that OF Farmers and say NO to anything Labor proposed. The NP don't actually represent a LOT of people but a fair bit of area and they are rusted on voters. 

When  Election time Come s scrutiny of what Policies are In Place& How they are likely to work Might Bring some reality into the equation and see How the DIVERSE   views of the NEW  additions to Pauline's Party will share the Power and Pecking order. STABILITY. Can't see it happening. Nev

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How can you ignore the dishonest and evil labor party in Vic supporting crime and corruption to the tune of 15 to 30 Billion? Nothing the other parties have done comes anywhere close. Ever.

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