Marty_d Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I would be very interested to know how immigrants have affected people PERSONALLY. There's a lot of anti-immigration rubbish on here. It's all general. Personally, in my team at work there are 3 people who emigrated to Australia. They're hard workers and good people. So I'm interested why people have a problem with Australia's current immigration regime. Is it because of the stories in the Murdoch press? Is it because you want a simple scapegoat for complex societal problems like house prices? Or have you been personally impacted by immigration? 1
onetrack Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) The general opinion of the immigration problem seems to be that immigrants lower the standards many Anglo-Europeans set in earlier days - as regards cleanliness, levels of service, and general behaviour standards. The previous laws relating to immigrants appear to have been seriously watered down. Originally, immigrants had to produce a clean criminal history, be sponsored by an Australian citizen and have a job to go to, and they were on "probation" for a couple of years after arrival. Any criminal offence soon after arrival would see them deported quickly. But now we have "African Crime Gangs", "Middle Eastern Crime Gangs", and Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs taken over by immigrant thugs. There has been a major upsurge in drug dealing, money laundering, car theft, car rebirthing, financial scams (especially involving NDIS and child care payment scams), and a major upsurge in the use of bladed weapons in serious assaults and home invasions. A lot of this crime upsurge is directly related to immigrants with criminal histories and tendencies who were let in, apparently unchecked. This is not the way to improve a country. Edited 1 hour ago by onetrack 1
octave Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, onetrack said: The general opinion of the immigration problem seems to be that immigrants lower the standards many Anglo-Europeans set in earlier days I guess the issue is not immigration per se, but the method. These conversations often seem to assume that the worst cases are the most common. In the past, there were a lot of Italian migrants. Although now accepted by most Australians, there were certainly a minority involved in organised crime. My son's partner is a migrant from China (to NZ). She is a highly paid (and taxed) contributor to society. The term immigrant is rather broad. My doctor and my dentist are immigrants. For the last 30 years of my working life, I mainly worked as a music teacher in private music studios. The number of my colleagues born overseas was quite large. These people were the best and brightest. Here is a picture from when I retired. There are Irish, Vietnamese, Chinese, Hong Kong, South American, South African, British, and probably more. These people were all smart and talented, and I loved working with them. I am also an immigrant. My family arrived in Australia in 1964 as "ten-pound tourists" We lived in a new city called Elizabeth, which was full of immigrants, mainly British but other nationalities as well. A few immigrants failed to adjust, and there was crime associated with this. I don't have the figures, but I doubt it would have been much greater than from Australian-born people.
red750 Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago Box Hill Central is a busy shopping centre built over a railway station, with a bus terminus on the roof. You can sit in the mall for half an hour and be lucky to see half a dozen caucasions. Mainly Asians of various nationalities - Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, Sri Lankan, Singaporean, etc. 1
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