Is our 2 party system just a con?

[Jerry_Atrick]

Once again you sling mud with no substance and show your bias against Israel,..

 

IHaven't heard you reliably debunk much, if anything with fact

 

Who's biased?

 

Pot calling kettle, etc etc

 

 

[facthunter]

  Bibi can't CLAIM that he is Immune from criticism by claiming ANY criticism of HIM at all, is Anti semitic.  Lot's Of Opposition by respected bodies  around the World have Been on record on this Matter..Nev

[willedoo]

4 hours ago, Litespeed said:

Jerry,

 

Once again you go off on a rant and show your inherent bias to Israel.

 

 

They're not rants, just long posts putting forward a lot of points that can't be squeezed into a one-liner like a lot of replies on the forum are. I've seen rants on this forum in the past but none with Jerry's signature. And to clear one thing up, I'm not defending Jerry because I'm pro Israel, I'm not. I'm not pro either side and personally couldn't give two hoots if both sides battled it out to the end, as long as they don't bring their hatred here to our country. 

[pmccarthy]

I am not shamed to say I am pro Israel. I admire their strength and tenacity in a region of evil and terror. I wish them complete success in defeating those who cry death to Israel.

[willedoo]

Litespeed, just a suggestion, maybe tone down on the insults to posters you don't agree with and try posting on your position without playing the man. It's a bit disrespectful, and I've really noticed this forum getting quite toxic lately. Forumites can be polite and still disagree. 

[willedoo]

On 06/04/2026 at 2:57 PM, facthunter said:

The Courier Mail has a Monopoly in Queensland. Such a situation should not be Permitted, anywhere. Nev

One of the few times you and I would agree Nev. The Courier Mail is a shocker. Go back 40 or 50 years ago and it was a fairly normal paper, but these days it's more like a trashy tabloid. One thing I'm not happy about is that almost all regional and local papers in Queensland are owned by Murdoch. That means you can't read them online without a subscription. In the google news feed for example, you might see a news headline from a different region and when you click on it, it's paywalled. I know media businesses have to make money, but getting a monopoly on local news can be a bit manipulative in my opinion.

[onetrack]

Nothing has changed with control of the news for many centuries. Buy up all the cheap newspapers you can find, to ensure you get maximum control of the Press.

[red750]

Gina Rinehart has suffered a legal blow, with a court ruling the family of her father's former business partner has the rights to royalties from her Hope Downs mine in WA's Pilbara. 

 

Justice Jennifer Smith found both Mrs Rinehart's company Hancock Prospecting and Rio Tinto were jointly liable for the royalties payments to Peter Wright's family's company, Wright Prospecting.

 

But Justice Smith dismissed claims from Wright Prospecting and two of Mrs Rinehart's children that they owned part of Hancock Prospecting's share of the Hope Downs mine.

 

Justice Jennifer Smith dismissed all claims, including by Mrs Rinehart's children and Mr Wright's descendants, to an ownership share in the Hope Downs iron ore mines and tenements, currently operated as a joint venture between Mrs Rinehart's Hancock Prospecting and Rio Tinto.

 

Justice Smith found both Hancock Prospecting and Rio Tinto were jointly liable for the royalties payments to Mr Wright's family's company, Wright Prospecting.

 

ABC News.

[facthunter]

 She's worth? 40 Billion, so she won't starve. She's Australia's Richest Person. Nev

[Marty_d]

Oh the poor thing. Should we set up a GoFundMe for her to keep her in caviar and champagne?

[facthunter]

With all that Money she is still not attractive to Me. Maybe IF she was in Uniform?  NOoooo.    Nev

[facthunter]

Any comment on the PHON result in Victoria yesterday?   Nev

[Marty_d]

What I would comment on is the extent to which PHON is owned by Gina.

Read the following article if you haven't eaten.

Pauline is fed, clothed and transported with Gina's money. She is a wholly owned subsidiary.

For anyone considering voting for One nation, you're actually voting for Gina, an unelected and Trump loving billionaire.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/ng-interactive/2026/apr/30/gina-rinehart-one-nation-pauline-hanson-donations-ntwnfb

[facthunter]

And Murdochs  Constant Fawning comments. He Wants the ABC. Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

It's about time Traditional Aussies were represented in Parliament.

[facthunter]

You are a "Stuck" record on that one. Anyone can run for Parliament , The current Gov't got voted in  and no lives were Lost in the Process. The AEC, an independent body, over sees that Process..  It's not like Russia, where Putin gets 98% of the vote and Opposition people die Mysteriously.  You OBVIOUSLY Hate Living Here. Are you going to rat on forever?  Why did you choose this site? Do you have any Interest In Aircraft at all because that is the Glue that Binds us Here. Nev

[willedoo]

It's interesting seeing how preferences pan out. The Victorian Liberals retained the seat of Nepean in yesterday's by-election. They had a primary vote of 38.5% and a swing of 9.6% away from them (most likely to One Nation). After preferences were allocated they ended up with 63.5% which translated to a +6.8% swing. One Nation was in second place with 24.7% primary vote which could account for a fair bit of the Liberal preference gain. Third place was the Independent on 21.3 primary and in fourth place the Greens on 9.3 primary.

 

That's the two candidate preferred final percentage figures estimated on the Independent polling in the top two. It might change slightly due to One Nation ending up in place.

[octave]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

It's about time Traditional Aussies were represented in Parliament.

I guess you should perhaps define "traditional Aussie"

 

In the current federal parliament, between 12-13% of members are born overseas. By contrast, 32% of Australia's population was born overseas.  

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Traditional Aussies are 4th generation Australians or better. As I have said before, we are not all Anglos, there are other ethnicities, but we all think the same Aussie way. We've copped a hiding since the advent of multiculturalism, SBS, international lefty progressive politics, and mass immigration. These have turned Australia inside out and upside down.

 

Just as you vote for how you like, I will vote for how I like - One Nation, nothing else.

[octave]

5 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Just as you vote for how you like, I will vote for how I like - One Nation, nothing else.

I thought you didn't bother voting

 

6 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

but we all think the same Aussie way.

You seem to want to live in some kind of monoculture. Don't you enjoy talking to people who are not identical to you? 

[facthunter]

And Trump of course who you admire.. You don't need to do any research or have any reservations? Trump is disintegrating and doing great Harm to the world so where does that  Leave "all the way with Trump" Pauline?  Murdoch and Glorious GINA pull her  strings, mate..  The Last People SHE will help are those not doing well. She wants the High Life and her sexy Plane toy. Her "SHOW" will end up at each other's throats.  It's full of NOTHING REALLY. Just Racist rev up and other wild rhetoric.. Do you really think SHE has what it  takes to represent this Country on the World Stage?  After  all, it's Pauline Hanson's One Nation. THAT is the  Name of the Party.. How strange is that? Nev

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[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Traditional Aussies are 4th generation Australians or better. As I have said before, we are not all Anglos, there are other ethnicities, but we all think the same Aussie way. We've copped a hiding since the advent of multiculturalism, SBS, international lefty progressive politics, and mass immigration. These have turned Australia inside out and upside down.

 

Just as you vote for how you like, I will vote for how I like - One Nation, nothing else.

Absolutely vote how you like. Just be aware of who owns the party you're voting for. They will be doing HER will, not yours or any other "Traditional Aussies".

[red750]

You worry about PHON, and rightly so, but she's not the only one. Read up on Australia One Party and the Sovereign Peoples Assembly of Western Australia.