God help America

[old man emu]

I've got an idea for gun control in the USA! Invoke the spitir of teh Second Amendment which says "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

The spirit of that amendment was to provide secutiry for the State. Therfore, make it a condition of gunownership that a person join a militia unit and attend training that leads to the unit being well regulated. If a person does not do that, then no firearm. People would find it too inconvenient to give up their time for that, and so would hand in their firearms.

[onetrack]

You want to RE-WRITE the American Constitution?? Wash your mouth out, and apologise to every flag-waving American patriot! This Constitution was written by God himself, looking over the shoulders of the Great American Founding Fathers! It is UNTOUCHABLE!!!!! No-one is ever allowed to re-write even one line of it!! 🙄

 

The world will end when that happens, and every American will retreat to their end-time bunkers with all their firearms, hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo, and tons of dried food supplies, to take on the hordes that are coming to TAKE THEIR CONSTITUTION AND THEIR GUNS AWAY FROM THEM!!!! 🙄

[nomadpete]

Rather than rewriting the constitution, if they just follow it......

 

Founding fathers tried to separate state from all religion. The US really began it's slide when the christian lobby got control - about the same time their (&our) government implemented prayer sessions into government processes.

 

The only thing needed to reclaim some semblance of respect is to get the whole lot to obey the rule of law, ditch religious fundamentalism, and drop the Electoral College.

[nomadpete]

PS, contrary to the current voices in Washington, the United States was NOT founded as a christian nation.

[old man emu]

8 minutes ago, onetrack said:

You want to RE-WRITE the American Constitution??

No. Just review it' - tidy it up by including the OK amendments as Sections. I think that what Trump has been doing is reason to reconsider the role of the Head of State and the House of Representatives in their roles in running the country. Trump has removed the ability to run the country from the Representatives. They could still keep their system for electing a President, but restrict a President's power to act as Trump has been acting. 

[rgmwa]

Trump has demonstrated how weak the US Constitution and their system of government is if you want to exploit or ignore it. 

[kgwilson]

The only time that will happen is after their next civil war.

 

The senate already has the power to restrict Trump but they have become impotent with Trump quoting Emergencies when there are none and all the government appointees being sycophants. The only hope is republicans losing their house majority after the mid terms.

[nomadpete]

7 minutes ago, rgmwa said:

Trump has demonstrated how weak the US Constitution and their system of government is if you want to exploit or ignore it. 

That's not the fault of the constitution.

Every system can be hijacked if a leader plants compliant assistants who only answer to their benefactor, and ignore ethically obeying the rules.

 

In the US case, removing trump from the equation fixes nothing. I only permits the unethical rabble to run amok.

[rgmwa]

But it’s their three legged system of government that allows a corrupt president to accumulate so much power. It would be very difficult if not impossible for a prime minister of this country to do what Trump is doing.

[Marty_d]

Scomo gave it a try, how many ministries was he secretly running?

[old man emu]

4 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Scomo gave it a try, how many ministries was he secretly running?

He might have had his nose in places it should not have been, but our Constitution would not have permitted Trump-like behaviour. That's why I say countries which operate under constitutions similar to ours are more democratic than the USA. I suppose the framers of the US Constitution did not want to have a kinglike head of State as that reeked of the British system.

 

It is strange that so many of the US politicians degrees in Business Mangement, but are reluctant to monitor the operation of the Constitution for the purposes of improvement. It seems to me that they only make amendments in response to problematic incidents.