Admin Posted Friday at 08:49 PM Posted Friday at 08:49 PM 11 hours ago, red750 said: Don't know the story of the lines, but it looks like Lakeside Drive Albert Park, The F1 circuit. Correct, i dont understand it as well
onetrack Posted Friday at 11:22 PM Posted Friday at 11:22 PM Isn't the lane on the right, the pit lane? In F1 racing, where the speeds are terrific, they need to have a pit lane to allow separation of the cars entering and leaving the pits, due to the huge variation in the race car speeds, and the much lower speeds of the cars entering and leaving the pits. There have been many serious prangs in past decades due to collisions between cars racing past the pits at extreme speeds, and the cars entering or leaving the pits.
facthunter Posted Friday at 11:28 PM Posted Friday at 11:28 PM I don't think it is, but have no suggestion. Those roads carry normal traffic Most of the time, and I think there's a Golf Course Somewhere. Nev 1
red750 Posted Friday at 11:45 PM Posted Friday at 11:45 PM On the opposite side of the lake from the pits. When it wasn't closed for the race, I drove on that road every day going home from work. 2
pmccarthy Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I would assign those to a labor supporter. So what's the point? 2 1
facthunter Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago There's a lot more Labor supporters that you are writing OFF. Nev
Marty_d Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, facthunter said: There's a lot more Labor supporters that you are writing OFF. Nev Arguing devil's advocate, there's a lot of PHON supporters too, and Trump himself got 70m votes. The numbers don't reflect good choices sometimes. What's worse is the LNP tearing itself to bits with Angus and his far right mates totally ignoring the lessons of the last election and trying to emulate Pauline. What sort of opposition is that? 1
facthunter Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago IF they aren't dills they are pretty good actors. They should return their Salaries for the Last year. Nev
Jerry_Atrick Posted 14 minutes ago Posted 14 minutes ago There are striking similarities between UK and AUS politics. Normally, I would say to predict what is going to happen politically in the UK, just look at Australia's recent past. The libs impending implosion and the lurch to the right are the two exceptions, where the UK leads, but Australia is following. The conservatives have been out of ideas and losing relevance for a long time. Brexit was a way they could lay the blame of the malaise they imposed on the country and solve it in one foul swoop. Of course, when that didn't work and the chickens came home to roost, it showed how hollow they were - out of touch with the electorate; out of touch with business; out of touch woth foreign policy.. the party kept on proffering candidates who seemed to be stuck in the old colonial days. Brexit initially delivered the conservatives a large swing from Labour. But they have no oether swung back, or swung to Reform - Nigel Farage. Brexit was a protest vote - people who were on the margins, which seemingly more and more of what should be the middle classes find themselves. Conservatives followed suit - their party in disarray, not representing the rank and file. First, they tried emulating reform. Once it became clear that conservative voters had shifted, so too have some of the lesser qualified conservative MPs. Reform took third place in the popular vote in the last elections; I would say they are even money, if not staring down taking first place of the popular vote at the next. They are unlikely to grab the premiership due to the concentration of their votes, but taking the popular vote is a big boost. Yet, their policies will hurt the ones that vote for them most. Australia is heading that way. The Libs are more and more irrelevant. They have a habit of nominating candidates that are less and less competent. Lib voters are moving to PHON. As the Libs implde, some will see the personal value of defecting to PHON. Labor lost some ground in the primary vote in the last polls. That is probably more attributed to Bondi and general incumbent blues than a shift to PHON at this stage. There has been no Brexit moment to pull Labor voters away. But, there are things creeping in that may move Labor voters at a higher rate. There is stuff like the NACC, where Labor have proved not much better than the Libs at the end of the day. That is minor in the scheme of things, but these sorts of things that can be the straw that breaks the camel's back, Despite Australia looking after its poorer and lower mddle classes better that the UK, we are seeing a wider gap between the haves and the have nots; we are seeing constantly increasing costs of lving, and hot topics like property rental and purhcase prices spiralling continues unabated. The result, more and more people will feel forgotten, get pi55ed off and cast their prtest vote. The difference between the UK and Australia is that voting in Australia is compulsory (or at least getting your name marked off the electoral roll is, anyway). This will mean those thast are p155ed off are more likely to cast a protest vote than in the UK, because many who would say normally vote conservative wouldn't turn up for the election - which happened in the last UK general election. Of course, Australia has a preferential system rather than first past the post, so that works in favour of keeing PHONies out., But don't bet on it. Libs and Labor have lessons to learn if they don't want a rabid right wing mob with significant power.
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