The impact of Immigration

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

I went to a podiatrist early last year, he happened to be muslim. I explained that I needed work done on my large toenails, they were curling and hard for me to trim. Then he started talking about consent, "if I come in his shop, I'm giving consent", or some such thing. Not knowing what he was on about, I gave a reason why it wasn't urgent, excused myself, and left.

 

Anyone know what that consent business is all about? Any experts on Islam here? Perhaps Tony Burqa could clue me in.

[Brendan]

11 hours ago, facthunter said:

You are a very Patient person Octave and put a lot of effort into correcting erroneous figures and statements, There's a hell of a lot of deliberate Misinformation out there so we ALL should put  a more critical eye on stuff from dubious sources for Nefarious Reasons . You have consistently done this for a Long time and I thank you greatly for your efforts. Nev

If anyone criticises the labour party you call it misinformation. 

You refuse to admit crime is out of control in Victoria. Because Daniel Andrews caused it 

Never mention the corruption labour have been involved in.

Billions handed to crime gangs and union officials.

Alboneses has been a communist party member since he was a teenager.

Andrews and Alan are too.

And banging on about one nation being  racist is crap. They only want what's best for Australians and that means slowing the current migration levels and bringing in more stringent entry standards. 

We all know we need immigration just not the way the clowns are doing it at the moment.

Hopefully this November some healing can start when Jacinta Andrews gets kicked out .

But our electoral system needs to change to stop preferences getting unwanted people elected.

I don't know anyone that voted labour yet albo got in by a landslide with prefences.

 

[Brendan]

[Marty_d]

6 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

I went to a podiatrist early last year, he happened to be muslim. I explained that I needed work done on my large toenails, they were curling and hard for me to trim. Then he started talking about consent, "if I come in his shop, I'm giving consent", or some such thing. Not knowing what he was on about, I gave a reason why it wasn't urgent, excused myself, and left.

 

Anyone know what that consent business is all about? Any experts on Islam here? Perhaps Tony Burqa could clue me in.

FFS. He was asking if you consented to his handling your feet to cut your toenails.

When my karate sensei corrects my stance he asks permission to move my arm. 

In the age of Epstein and Weinstein it's just safer to ensure you have consent before touching someone's body.

If you want someone to blame for that, entitled rich creeps like them and indeed "grab 'em on the pussy" Trump should be your target.

[pmccarthy]

I believe that in Australia by law you have to obtain consent before kissing your girlfriend.

[old man emu]

At its very simplest, an assualt consists of touching another person, or being in close enough proximity to continue moving towards touching. An assualt can either be consenteed to, or not. If there is consent, then the assualt is lawful. Those sorts of assaults can range from a handshake, to a hug, to a kiss. Even a tackle in a football game is an assault consented to, as long as the tackle style is lawful under the rules of the game. In the situations I have mentioned, consent is normally assumed as being part of normal interaction.

 

In all other cases, touchin another person is an unconsented assault. Have you ever undergone a procedure in a hospital? Do you remember signing a document to confirm your constent to undergo the procedure?  In the case of the podiatrist, the more serious assault arises from the use of a cutting tool on a part of the body. If one visits a podiatrist for a procedure, one has in one's mind that the assault is consented to. However, the podiatrist is not a mind reader, and therefore for the podiatrist's protection, that consent must be confirmed. The consent can be revoked at any time thereafter.

 

 

 

 

[red750]

4 minutes ago, old man emu said:

If one visits a podiatrist for a procedure, one has in one's mind that the assault is consented to.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. If you didn't want him to touch you and cut your nails, why would you go there? If you go to a hairdresser, it is assumed you give consent to to the barber cutting your hair when you climb into the chair.

 

I am reminded of a comedy sketch I saw on TV a few years ago where a guy and girl were sitting on a couch and he pulled out a tape recorder and turned it on to record asking for permission to kiss her, and recording her approval.

[old man emu]

Getting back to topic.

 

Today is ANZAC Day. I've just come back from the Dawn Service in my town. A lot of people came to the service in ages from five to ninety-five. My town has a very strong tradition of remembrance becasue it was from here that the first citizen's recruiting march of WWI began. https://cooeemarch1915.com/ In a while. I'll go back into town for the daytime service at which there will be a lot more people.

 

However, as I was listening to the radio on the way home this morning there was talk of how the change in origin of our population is going to reduce the importance of ANZAC Day to the national identity. To be brutally honset, ANZAC Day is something that relates to those of us who have links to a British ancestry. Aboriginal people did participate, but thier descendants do not seem to want to be involved. The organisers of the serices in my town have tried to simply get the local Aboriginal community to provide a flag to be flown alongside the Australian and New Zealand flags, but to no avail. I don't want to dwell on that point, so don't you.

 

There are only a few people in town from what we might call the immigrant countries. They are good citizens, but do not have the heritage of ANZAC Day. I suspect that in our major cities the ratio of Anglos to non-Anglos is weighted towards the non-Anglos. Those non-Anglos are Australians. Think of the Italians, Greeks, Germans, Dutch, Hungarians etc who came here after WWII. Their decendants are dinki-di. In the future those whose parents came from India, Africa and Asia will reformulate what an Australian is. But I think that the ANZAC tradition will not be a big ingredint in that fomula. 

 

Is that a bad thing? Lamentable, perhaps, but as a nation's character evolves, some traits disappear.  Should we cling stubbornly to the Past, or accept an evolving Future. I know that you will have strong feelings about this due to how you were brought up, but soon we will be gone. Will our descendants have teh same feelings. Considering what the make up of the Nation will be in say, 50 years, will the clebration of ANZAC Day be important?

 

[Brendan]

[facthunter]

I understand they booed the "Welcome to Country" ceremony.  which is worth Knowing. Nev