Melbourne's North East Link big hole

[red750]

https://7news.com.au/news/melbourne-sinkhole-anger-at-heidelberg-oval-as-north-east-link-investigate-cause-c-21219704

 

 

 

A sinkhole appeared at AJ Burkitt Oval in the Banyule Flats Reserve in Heidelberg on Monday evening. 

 

 

 

 

[facthunter]

You get a LOT of them in Limestone ( like Portland). Nev

[old man emu]

Council turns AJ Burkitt Oval into an aquatic centre. Saves ratepayers a fortune.

[onetrack]

NEWS FLASH!  Melbourne, already known for being a bit of a hole, has shown what it can really do, by way of big holes! 😄 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Oi! I am from Melbourne.. Go easy... 

 

😉

 

[old man emu]

6 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Oi! I am from Melbourne.. Go easy... 

 

😉

 

Yeah, but you emmigrated for a better place to live.

[Jerry_Atrick]

It was

[facthunter]

I doubt it. The Convicts went to a better place than they were sent from. Some Punishment that was.. I went to Melbourne in 1965 to  work  there.  That's a while ago. .  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

It's futile to argue which is better. Convicts were sent to Australia in 1868 and I dare say both countries have changed a lot since then. There is good and bad in both places, and each have their cultural, material, sociological, natural, and dog knows what other differences.

 

When I arrived, it was a breath of fresh air, very practical in many ways and more liberal and forward thinking. I also liked totally free at use health care, good pay and lower cost of living except for housing in London hotspots.

 

The weather was similar to Melbourne, just colder. The long lazy summer eves on a local green sitting outside a pub watching and participating in a genuinely friendly and sociable game of cricket - everyone seemed chilled and enjoying life.

 

The natural splendour isn't quite that of Australia, and of course the beaches are nowhere near as good. But, I am not a beach person - never have been. 

 

Free education while Australia was charging people. 

 

And what shocked me was the food, except seafood, was generally better for the average person. Although there were some traditional items that seemed a little off putting.

 

But, it is totally subjective. One thing though - the conservatives ruined the place. When I arrived, I may as well not have left Australia there were so many of us. Slowly, as the advantages to living here declined more and more went back. Post Brexit, I feel I am the only one left

Edited January 6 by Jerry_Atrick

[old man emu]

9 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Oi! I am from Melbourne.. Go easy... 

 

 

 

I mistook that to mean that you were originally from Melbourne and moved away. 

[onetrack]

Ahem .... convicts were first sent to Australia in 1788, not 1868. Back to the history books for you, Jerry! W.A. can lay claim to be the only State founded by free settlers (1826 for Albany, and 1829 for Perth), and W.A. only had convicts sent here between 1850 and 1868 - therefore only a small percentage of West Aussies, can claim convict ancestry.

My parents arrived as "Ten-Pound Poms", Dad from England in 1925, and Mum from Scotland in 1929. Mum was fond of the old comment, "We arrived as 'Assisted Immigrants', not 'Insisted Immigrants'". 😄 

[Jerry_Atrick]

Sorry.. that should have read last sent to Australia.. I believe the last of the convicts sent was to Fremantle or some such place 🙂

[Siso]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

Ahem .... convicts were first sent to Australia in 1788, not 1868. Back to the history books for you, Jerry! W.A. can lay claim to be the only State founded by free settlers (1826 for Albany, and 1829 for Perth), and W.A. only had convicts sent here between 1850 and 1868 - therefore only a small percentage of West Aussies, can claim convict ancestry.

My parents arrived as "Ten-Pound Poms", Dad from England in 1925, and Mum from Scotland in 1929. Mum was fond of the old comment, "We arrived as 'Assisted Immigrants', not 'Insisted Immigrants'". 😄 

South Australia as well?

[facthunter]

The Penal Colony's were at the Best Bits. You NEED WATER. Nev

[onetrack]

Yes Siso, my apologies, S.A. was also formed as a free settler State.

[facthunter]

I don't believe it made a lot of difference long term apart from the Outrageous  Land Grants to the Toffs/ Gentry in Mainly Sydney. Australia has a healthy contempt for People Born with a Silver Spoon in their Mouths, who think they are SPECIAL and Superior.  Nev

[red750]

Now to another piece of marvellous Labor infrastructure. The glorious Westgate Tunnel. Designed to ease traffic on the Westgate Bridge and reduce suburban traffic through the western suburbs.

 

Now trucks are refusing to use it because the tolls are too high, and they are causing more traffic, semi's and B-Doubles through the streets 24/7, risking pedestrians.

[facthunter]

What a Knocker. Trucks don't use the Tunnel near Hornsby for the same reason. Toll cost. They got it Built didn't they with unanticipated difficulties?  Nev

[octave]

2 hours ago, red750 said:

Now to another piece of marvellous Labor infrastructure. The glorious Westgate Tunnel. Designed to ease traffic on the Westgate Bridge and reduce suburban traffic through the western suburbs.

 

Now trucks are refusing to use it because the tolls are too high, and they are causing more traffic, semi's and B-Doubles through the streets 24/7, risking pedestrians.

I genuinely don't understand this. Perhaps I am missing something.  The news stories seem to assert that the completion of the tunnel has increased truck traffic through these suburbs.  Weren't these trucks driving through these suburbs before the completion of the tunnel?   Surely the worst-case scenario is that it has not improved the truck situation. Again, perhaps I am missing something, but the tunnel surely has not increased the traffic to a level greater than before the completion of the tunnel.    Happy to be corrected.

[onetrack]

Come and live in W.A.! - we don't have toll roads of any kind! - and no W.A. Govt of any persuasion will ever allow a toll road to be built, anywhere in W.A.