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Jerry_Atrick Grand Master

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It's futile to argue which is better. Convicts were sent to Australia in 1868 and I dare say both countries have changed a lot since then. There is good and bad in both places, and each have their cultural, material, sociological, natural, and dog knows what other differences.

 

When I arrived, it was a breath of fresh air, very practical in many ways and more liberal and forward thinking. I also liked totally free at use health care, good pay and lower cost of living except for housing in London hotspots.

 

The weather was similar to Melbourne, just colder. The long lazy summer eves on a local green sitting outside a pub watching and participating in a genuinely friendly and sociable game of cricket - everyone seemed chilled and enjoying life.

 

The natural splendour isn't quite that of Australia, and of course the beaches are nowhere near as good. But, I am not a beach person - never have been. 

 

Free education while Australia was charging people. 

 

And what shocked me was the food, except seafood, was generally better for the average person. Although there were some traditional items that seemed a little off putting.

 

But, it is totally subjective. One thing though - the conservatives ruined the place. When I arrived, I may as well not have left Australia there were so many of us. Slowly, as the advantages to living here declined more and more went back. Post Brexit, I feel I am the only one left

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onetrack Grand Master

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Ahem .... convicts were first sent to Australia in 1788, not 1868. Back to the history books for you, Jerry! W.A. can lay claim to be the only State founded by free settlers (1826 for Albany, and 1829 for Perth), and W.A. only had convicts sent here between 1850 and 1868 - therefore only a small percentage of West Aussies, can claim convict ancestry.

My parents arrived as "Ten-Pound Poms", Dad from England in 1925, and Mum from Scotland in 1929. Mum was fond of the old comment, "We arrived as 'Assisted Immigrants', not 'Insisted Immigrants'". 😄 

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1 hour ago, onetrack said:

Ahem .... convicts were first sent to Australia in 1788, not 1868. Back to the history books for you, Jerry! W.A. can lay claim to be the only State founded by free settlers (1826 for Albany, and 1829 for Perth), and W.A. only had convicts sent here between 1850 and 1868 - therefore only a small percentage of West Aussies, can claim convict ancestry.

My parents arrived as "Ten-Pound Poms", Dad from England in 1925, and Mum from Scotland in 1929. Mum was fond of the old comment, "We arrived as 'Assisted Immigrants', not 'Insisted Immigrants'". 😄 

South Australia as well?

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I don't believe it made a lot of difference long term apart from the Outrageous  Land Grants to the Toffs/ Gentry in Mainly Sydney. Australia has a healthy contempt for People Born with a Silver Spoon in their Mouths, who think they are SPECIAL and Superior.  Nev

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