Let's talk about Artificial Intelligence

[Jerry_Atrick]

Very Aston Martin-y, but I asked Chapt GPT to do concept sketches, and models of a sporty tourer with European lines but Aussie ruggedness. Heres what it did:

 

And then the model:

 

And, of course, right hand drive:

And I like the two tone of the right hand drive much better...

 

Not exactly what I was wanting, but not a bad effort for 1/2 hour...

 

It even suggested a model name of Australis GT..

 

Edited April 14 by Jerry_Atrick

[rgmwa]

That's pretty impressive. All you need now is a next level 3-D printer.

[nomadpete]

He didn't ask A.I. how this car would look if it was made in USA without materials that trump has tariffed out of availability.

[red750]

Not AI, but there was a story on Sunrise about a company, I think in Sydney, which has built a catamaran using one of the worlds largest 3D printers, 28 metres long by 8 metres wide. That's the printer, not the boat.

[spacesailor]

I read the " cat " was 28 m long .

Without my hearing-aid .

spacesailor

[pmccarthy]

How long is it WITH your hearing aid?

[red750]

Natalie Barr questioned the guy to clarify it was th printer.

[spacesailor]

so ' how long ' the boat ? .

spacesailor

 

[red750]

The boat is 55 ft long. The builder is Cure Marine from Qld.

 

I rewatched the show on 7plus streaming, and I got the width of the printer wrong. It's 5 metres.

 

If you want to watch the story, go to 7plus,com.au/sunrise. Drag the timer button through to 7:51 on the onscreen clock.

 

[onetrack]

Yeah, but how much did it cost to build the 3D printer? 

[old man emu]

Not only do we have people creating falsehoods on YouTube, and perpetuating inaccuracies, but now AI is making things worse. Here is one, real, YouTube creator exposing how AI has been used to create incorrect facts and even imaginary items in creating a story.

 

[facthunter]

Harder and Harder to find the TRUTH. That's how the BAD guys like it. Expect things to get worse as they surely will. Nev

[nomadpete]

A.I.  = Assorted  Intelligence.

 

Have we created an automated version of Average (Human) Intelligence?

[Jerry_Atrick]

Is there any hope?

 

 

 

[spacesailor]

Why can't the scientists invent an " imbeded memory chip " for all who are below normal ! .

spacesailor

[facthunter]

There's no Money in it and people who think are a threat to the establishment. Nev

[Marty_d]

Elon is working on it for you Spacey.

Just imagine, targeted advertising straight to your visual cortex, 24 hours a day.

[facthunter]

Save you having to watch SKY. Nev

[spacesailor]

Better than forgetting " who is that weirdo " .

spacesailor

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Save you having to watch SKY. Nev

Hmm.. so there are advantages to Musk's plans? 😉

 

[Litespeed]

Scary, the oligarchy and political capture seem sure to head us to destruction.

 

Imagine if Stephen Fry was president how different the world would be.

 

The world our children inherit is nothing like any human has ever seen or could imagine in all but the most catastrophic sci-fi. 

 

We are running half blind to extinction.

[Jerry_Atrick]

While the last video points to a stark and bleak existence, the below video largely resonates reflects my thoughts in that AI. I  think I have said somewhere in these fora before, unlike previous technology, which created different jobs to what it displaced, AI has the ability to reach critical mass of laying off workers without replacement of the job. I still think that AI cannot develop itself; there will be some prescience required to make the next technological leap. However, it will be bloody good at incremental improvements, which can happen much faster than with humans.

 

I don't fully subscribe to the  armageddon scenario is that AI controls itself, which the below vid is about. I am not sure that will ever be the case, though it undoubtedly technologically is able to. I think ti will be controlled by billionaires ultimately, as governments are relying on them to create the AI. The billionaires will only do something if they get a return from it. The problem when AI does cause mass displacement of human labour is that the asset values  of the billionaires will diminish because most of the masses will not have money to spend, the assets of the billionaires will no longer derive the sort of income prior, and as business assets are valued based on the income they produce or their sellable value for other uses, if they can be, the wealth of billionaires will reduce. And they won't like that at all. What will keep billionaires' ability to make more money, oddly, is a wealthy population. And anything that derives its value largely from advertising will be the first to decline as advertisers will be slashed.

 

Also, the government will not have any money in the kitty. The very people it has been squeezong instead of the ones it should have been squeezing will have no income or require state welfare. With no money to spend on things like defence, they government will become very exposed. So, it too, relies on a wealthy masses, in the absence of taxing billionaires. Now, to keep the military going and to keep some form of stability as a result, will take some money. The government won't have it, so it will have to tax the billionaires. The billionaires won't like that one bit, so they use their vast resources which have been trasnferring to them from the rest of the populaton for years, and they either buy the military or buy their own. And then that will be the geneises of the next global war - not between countries, but between classes. (Of course, there will be a national backfrop as places like China don't have the billionaire tax issue.. if they don't want it).

 

The government could intorduce a universal basic income to keep the money flowing, but that money has to come from somewhere.. and the lower/middle classes no longer have it. Taxes needed and only the billionaires have it. Hmmm... See above. Notwithstanding, AI wil be churning out all sorts of products and services, but there is no one, except AI, to consume them. And I don't see the need for a lot of things like food, furniture, toys, etc for AI robots, so there is going to be a hell of an oversupply in amny product and service categories because without money, it doesn't matter how cheap the godds and services are made, they won't be able to be purchased in the volumes they are now.. Whole industries go broke, lawlessness breaks out to survice, and the apocolypse is coming.

 

Or we could start now.. start taxing everyone who can bear it fairly; start investing in people, start investing in the masses as well, so they can prepare for what is ahead. There have been a few experiments of applying the universal basic income as a non means tested safety net, and it has been more positive than negative. Ironically, under this system rather than the punitive systems on unemployment benefits these days, there is more econimically active adults, more innovation, and more entrepenureship (sp?).. Of course, to fund it, the billionaires and multi-national corporations would have to pay their tax.

 

Anyway, here is the vid:

 

[spacesailor]

My elder brother  always said " automation & AI " will make the common man obsolete. 

But my answer was always " the wealthy will buy , hand made goods "  .

As a example! . An Englishman travels the world collecting " stinky old rope " which he turns into,

' multiple Dimension artwork, 'See 'touch  ' smell ' .

( Not just a two Dimension painting ). for which he pays extraordinarily high £ millions of pounds Sterling. 

Or even hand made " Denby '' pottery. 

spacesailor

PS :  the world maybe saved by diminishing the population of that " common man " very few

$ millionaire's,  but even less $ billionaire's. 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/tech-layoffs-2025-ibm-lays-off-8000-employees-as-ai-replaces-hr-department-478053-2025-05-28

[rgmwa]

Trump and Musk will be happy to see 8,000 newly unemployed on the streets. Now, if only those two could be replaced by AI, we'd have some real progress.