Jerry_Atrick Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago So, how many people *think* the recently released report on clumsy change I'd a conspiracy theory and still want fossil fuels, even if they were 1/2 the cist of renewables? Do nothing and the cost is much higher. 1
Marty_d Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said: So, how many people *think* the recently released report on clumsy change I'd a conspiracy theory and still want fossil fuels, even if they were 1/2 the cist of renewables? Do nothing and the cost is much higher. Jaysus, how much Wolfie have you had?? But having deciphered your post, I think the Nats and half of the Libs think it's a conspiracy theory, but anyone with a brain doesn't. 2
nomadpete Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said: So, how many people *think* the recently released report on clumsy change I'd a conspiracy theory and still want fossil fuels, even if they were 1/2 the cist of renewables? Do nothing and the cost is much higher. What did I miss? 1
facthunter Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Marty , HALF of the NATS think....? Now THAT IS News. AS for the Libs IF they aren't careful, they won't exist at all. Suss Ley is being undermined very effectively By Murdoch and her own Party. Nev 1 1 1
pmccarthy Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago Our government is going to destroy our economy for no reason. It will make not one iota of difference to the temperature or climate of Australia.
onetrack Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago The air quality in Beijing has apparently improved out of sight since the city has started to discourage polluting IC engines, and encouraged transport to move over to EV's. It appears nearly all taxis in Beijing are electric. In addition, large investments in rail to move people around, have done their bit to cut transport emissions. So, there has to be some benefit in any attempt at reducing polluting emissions. The argument that our efforts to cut emissions will only be a drop in the ocean, because China is doing nothing about cutting emissions, is a fallacious one. https://sustainablemobility.iclei.org/air-pollution-beijing/ 1
Marty_d Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, pmccarthy said: Our government is going to destroy our economy for no reason. It will make not one iota of difference to the temperature or climate of Australia. The opposite. Our economy depends on transitioning. We have the most sun and coastline of pretty much any country on earth. The only people who gain from not doing anything are people like Gina and Clive. And they'll be dead before the worst impacts of inaction hit. 1 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 12 hours ago, Marty_d said: Jaysus, how much Wolfie have you had?? But having deciphered your post, I think the Nats and half of the Libs think it's a conspiracy theory, but anyone with a brain doesn't. Nah.. Morning, after the long drive.. cist = cost.. given the news it gained here, I would have thought it was obvious what I woz tarking aboot... 9 hours ago, pmccarthy said: Our government is going to destroy our economy for no reason. It will make not one iota of difference to the temperature or climate of Australia. This is a typical short term gain, long term pain post. To put it into context, here is the Herald Sun report, hardly a paper that is unbiased and fair, and one that certainly doesn't support Labor: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/doomsday-predictions-of-climate-change-risk-warns-hundreds-of-australians-could-die-from-heatrelated-ailments/news-story/5dbecbe7914b02f08dcba35a5660b16d Even they couldn't really find anything credible to raise against the report.. Some government bashing.. Now, back to the economy.. if we had of invested incrementally over a longer period if time, you know, when it was first raised to our attention we are skirting with real danger, then the economy wouldn't need to take a big hit to its investment budget. But, no.. lack of vision is now forcing our hand. Needless to say, economically, where we can feed ourselves and keep those 1.5m people alive, of which many will be economically productive may make things better.. Imagine if we had invested a lot and were reaping the cheaper energy while already amortising the cost.. just imagine.. There is no indiustry that doesn't sustain losses before making it big. Just ask Amazon.
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