Electric car thread

[Marty_d]

6 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Yeah. You can't trust those Bikies. Lock up your grandmothers when THEY come to town. I've Never been able to afford Leathers. Are they any good against Timber trucks? Nev

Well, when I say "leathers" I'm only talking about jacket, boots and gloves - I would like some leather pants at some point but it's jeans at the moment. 

Not sure that I would want to take on a log truck regardless of outfit, or vehicle for that matter.

Grandma is safe.

[onetrack]

It's only Grandpa's that go for Grandma's. 😄

 

[octave]

On 28/06/2025 at 10:41 PM, onetrack said:

This is what is wrong with EV's, and what is still putting people off. They're essentially toasters, you scrap them when the battery is RS. Watch the video right through, the bloke is not anti-EV.

 

Even just doing any repair work on them generally starts to become horrendously costly within a very short time. Mind you, a lot of IC-engined cars of recent design are no better.

 

Thus, my argument remains that the only way to make EV's fully superior to IC-engined vehicles, is to build them with swappable batteries. It is idiocy to keep building EV's with batteries that are essentially part of the chassis and body.

 

 

 

 

Turns out that this vehicle is back on the road.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by octave

[red750]

New neighbours two doors up (Asians) are renovating the house ready to move in. They have the latest Tesla Model Y, photo below. The 4th Tesla in the street.

 

[facthunter]

Shocking. Is nothing sacred?  You won't even be able to hear them come and go and they will never have the bonnet up. Nev

Edited 22 hours ago by facthunter

[onetrack]

The new Chinese Tesla copy, the Xiaomi YU7, manufactured by China's Xiaomi phone manufacturer, sold 300,000 cars of this new model, in just one hour after its release.

 

The Xiaomi YU7 undercuts the Tesla model Y by around 4% in retail price. Elon is going to have to really apply himself now, on how to beat the Chinese EV onslaught.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-30/china-electric-vehicle-xiaomi-sells-289-000-suvs-tesla-model-y/105476084

 

Edited 22 hours ago by onetrack

[old man emu]

If there is one EV manufacturer who is likely to fail, it's TESLA. Too over-the-top for the general population. You don't see a Ferrari or Rolls in every garage in the suburbs. People simply want an inexpensive, reliable passenger vehicle. That's the market that the Chinese seem to be aiming for.

[spacesailor]

If we in Aus only want a cheap commuter vehicle. 

 ' Use public transport ' .

It has everything you desire. 

I fancied a mercedes electric,  but they are way out of my reach. 

Next BMW i4 electric.  Still too dear . My dear .

Oh dear. Back to Tesla . Missed out on an immaculate model  S 85 d .

So still looking for that one in a million car to stire my enthusiasm. 

A couple of cheap 'Renault Kangoo e z electric ' vans .

on " Grays " auctions. 

spacesailor

Edited 17 hours ago by spacesailor
A I changed a word ' commuter/ computer '

[kgwilson]

Xaiomi is now the 2nd largest phone manufacturer in the world after Samsung. They produce all sorts of electronics, appliances etc and their new EV is one of the best available. So good that the President of Ford in the US drives one. I chose an Xaiomi phone to replace my old 2017 LG G6 flagship model over everything else. iPhones have become boring and look the same from the iPhone 11 up to the iPhone 16. The Xaiomi has features never seen on any iPhone with better cameras etc at 1/3 the cost (purchased direct)

[Siso]

10 hours ago, spacesailor said:

If we in Aus only want a cheap commuter vehicle. 

 ' Use public transport ' .

It has everything you desire. 

I fancied a mercedes electric,  but they are way out of my reach. 

Next BMW i4 electric.  Still too dear . My dear .

Oh dear. Back to Tesla . Missed out on an immaculate model  S 85 d .

So still looking for that one in a million car to stire my enthusiasm. 

A couple of cheap 'Renault Kangoo e z electric ' vans .

on " Grays " auctions. 

spacesailor

Except we need to drive 80km to use public transport in my case. Have  been in rural Europe a couple of times in the last few years, pretty well public transport on any sealed road, even in the back blocks. Trains as well between city's for very reasonable prices. A$58 Warsaw to Berlin. Makes the whole comparing the price of petrol between Europe and Australia like comparing apples and oranges. Same with CO2 emissions when it comes to transport.

Edited 6 hours ago by Siso

[nomadpete]

11 hours ago, kgwilson said:

Xaiomi is now the 2nd largest phone manufacturer in the world after Samsung

Digressing for a moment (it's about time someone hijacked the thread)......

 

I think it won't be long before mr musky is toppled from his billionaire pedestal - by the chinese EV industry. Followed by the collapse of Apple.

 

What will this change of billionaire influence do to USA politics?

[red750]

Kia Sorento hybrid 2025 gives over 630 mile range (Yes, it's an American report). That's over 1013 km.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/shopping/this-hybrid-suv-offers-over-630-miles-of-driving-range-here-s-why-it-s-perfect-for-road-trips/ar-AA1HjipH?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=4a28c72d8f6f47bcae15e72385d0ee3c&ei=60

[red750]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/electric-cars-have-80-more-issues-than-gasoline-cars/ar-AA1HiDt2?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=4a28c72d8f6f47bcae15e72385d0ee3c&ei=79

[octave]

The problem with reliability surveys is that there are often vested interests at play ON BOTH SIDES.

 

A new study conducted by Europe’s largest automobile association has found that electric vehicles (EVs) are less prone to breaking down than internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles of the same age, which can suffer two and a half times as many breakdowns as electric cars.

 

EVs more reliable than ICE vehicles, with the best and worst electric cars identified  (April 2025)

 

 I think the language in the 80% story is interesting.  In one iteration of this story it says 80% more "issues" and in another 80% more problems I would love to see the raw data.   The closest the article comes to data is;

"The most common issues for electric cars include faulty charging systems and poor assembly, such as misaligned body panels and loose interior fittings."

Only one of these issues relates the the car being an EV. I know early Teslas had alignment issues but I understand this has been mostly fixed. There is absolutely no reason why, for example, an MG4 EV should have any more body panel issues than its IC counterpart.

 

Another issue is that many EVs have software that reports even minor issues automatically.   It is a common story in the media that Tesla is recalling a million vehicles for a fault. When you track down the story, the recall actually means an over-the-air update.

 

It is important to look at the data dispassionately, whether you favour EVs or IC and to realise that on both sides there are vested interests as well as unconscious bias, again on both sides.