Bikky Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Perhaps you can share with us this firm evidence. http://public.wsu.edu/~broosien/VirusEvolution.html http://viralzone.expasy.org/all_by_species/4136.html http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3094976/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I believe my ancestors are micro organisms. That doesn't preclude me being human after a very very very very very etc etc LOOOONG time, in a very unique place. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 ...and which god would that be? The God which is most familiar to us Bikky, the one I mentioned when going back and back in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I think some people are getting confused by the subtle difference in the use of the word "evolve". I didn't use it for this reason, even though it's commonly used for viruses. Evolve: Unfold, unroll, open out, set forth in order, give off (heat), develop by natural process, invent, imagine Evolution: Evolving, evolution of the species by development from earlier forms, extraction of root from any given power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsefeathers Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I think some people are getting confused by the subtle difference in the use of the word "evolve". I didn't use it for this reason, even though it's commonly used for viruses. Evolve: Unfold, unroll, open out, set forth in order, give off (heat), develop by natural process, invent, imagine Evolution: Evolving, evolution of the species by development from earlier forms, extraction of root from any given power. REALLY??? Semantics is the best form of argument you have ???? At least present a little bit of rational argument against Bikky's evidence (the evidence that you wanted). What about the tuberculosis question I asked? Any response? And yet - and yet You have not given one cognizant argument that evolution does not happen - evolution can happen within a species without it becoming a brand new species, ya know. They can change the colour of feathers, lengths of beaks etc and yet, even though they have evolved from a base platform, they are still the same species . Now, at some time down the track, it may happen that interbreeding cannot happen due to further changes, and at that point, it can probably be defined as a new species, but evolution does not automatically create a new species each time there is a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Give it time, I'm working, only got a few minutes at a time in breaks to read. It is interesting that you accuse me of not giving one cognizant argument that evolution does not happen, yet when I ask another atheist to prove there is no God, I'm given the Russell treatment. Just to refresh our memories Darwin never proved his theory of evolution of the species and nor has anyone else, but I do have an idea for an answer and I'm working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 ...now we're getting somewhere. This thread might just make it to 2000 after all. Fourteen years too late: it's already 2014 and there are only four weeks left of that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Fourteen years too late: it's already 2014 and there are only four weeks left of that too. ...2000 posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Not Chigwell, that's for sure. I never understood the virgin thing. When you think about it logically, men being men, if any young woman is even borderline good looking, there will be serious attempts to relieve her of the burden of virginity. So in general terms a high proportion of virgins who make it to their 30's would not be welcome on America's Next Top Model, to say the least. Hardly an incentive to strap on the vest. We did find out a few hundred posts ago that the meaning of "virgin' in ancient times was "young girl" so there's no need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 And according to one creed, there is an unlimited supply of virgins. Where do they come from? But why is that a good thing? Imagine, starfish who then follow you around demanding to marry them, oh great. Direct me to where the whores go to thanks ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 They make a big thing of virginity , even though multiple wives is common as a sign of success. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It is still true to say "if he was two feet closer........." in that instance the statement is true. My point was simple, no one exclaims "Wow, if they were 2 feet further away it wouldn't have even been close!". Oh, by the way, today I walked down a footpath in a narrow street and 148 cars passed me just 2 feet away - OMG!, I almost died!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octave Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 You're as bad as Octave with his virus - the HIV virus is still the HIV virus. It may well be adapting just as we adapt, it may even be changing, as some of us are black, some are white, some have round eyes, but it's not going to turn into a fish, lizard or bird. Turbs you talk as if my assertion about viruses is wacky pseudoscience, but pick up any high school or university text book and I think you will find that the evidence is solid and most importantly peer reviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreywh Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 who's the hippy white boy in his nightie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 white jesus, no wonder the jews voted to kill him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikky Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Mum and Dad were trying to console Susie whose dog, Skipper, had just died. "You know," Mum said, "it's not so bad. Skipper's probably up in Heaven right now, having a great time with God." Susie stopped crying and asked, "What would God want with a dead dog?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 white jesus, no wonder the jews voted to kill him Yup, not even the most devout Christian can not guarantee that Jesus didn't look something like this .... [ATTACH]47514._xfImport[/ATTACH] ... and apologies to the most devout followers for using the 400 year old pagan appointed name of "Jesus" rather than Yahushua (was "The Christ" Japanese by chance?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 No Bex, in all the research I've done, I've never seen his name written Yamaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 For those not familiar with The Christ's alleged real name ... The letter "J" is only some 500 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J so it certainly ain't Jesus. And more info on the real(?) name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahshua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 1370 posts and you haven't realised that there is only one true god. ME! I know it is true because I believe in me. The fact that I have only one believer is irrelevant. As to the question of "Who created god?" Doh.... it was my mother and father of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 You can't be God, KG because there's only supposed to be one of us. Just keep taking your medication like I have to. rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsefeathers Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sorry KG and rgmwa, but Bexbetter (may he be praised) has already declared himself god of this forum. Of course, there may be an opening for a Trinity, if you 3 put your heads together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sorry KG and rgmwa, but Bexbetter (may he be praised) has already declared himself god of this forum.Of course, there may be an opening for a Trinity, if you 3 put your heads together Not exactly the 3 way I had in mind .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Not exactly the 3 way I had in mind .... Was this more like it? "Oh yes, Madam Speaker!!" [ATTACH]47516._xfImport[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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