Maiden speech

[willedoo]

I just hope aliens don't land in Australia, and ask me

"Take me to your leader!"

 

How embarrassing.

Pete, maybe you could just hand them a list and the aliens could take their pick.

 

 

[spacesailor]

W D

 

That's what the so called elections Were supposed to be about.

 

we have to vote for Wentworth again, so why don,t they just put the party,s name on the voting form ?.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

It's about time that politicians, like the rest of us, were expected to fulfill their contract.

 

If they pull the pin before their term is up they should pay for the by-election out of their super payout.

 

 

[facthunter]

They are supposed tp serve us not rule us. and live high on the hog at our expense. Nev

 

 

[Marty_d]

I was discussing this with friends yesterday - the idea that if someone puts their hand up for PM in a leadership spill, and fails, that they should not just go to the back bench but lose their seat entirely and go to a by-election. This would prevent unnecessary PM-swapping and the kind of toxic white-anting carried out by Rudd and Abbott.

 

Unfortunately it would also require a change to the constitution, so while there might actually be voter support for such a move, no one in parliament would see it as being in their interest to raise it.

 

 

[willedoo]

Good idea, Marty. But as you say, the comedy fest wouldn't wear it.

 

 

[nomadpete]

Malcom,,,,

 

Malcom.

 

Aaaaah, I remember now. Wasn't he that guy who used to do prime minister impersonations?

 

 

[Bryon]

I say we stop all immigration

 

Everyone, from Capt James Cook on is a boat person and should be sent back to where they come from

 

 

[spacesailor]

Bryon, Were will you end up.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[nomadpete]

I'm pretty sure that even when the oceans were at their lowest,(all those thousands of years ago), the aborigines had to paddle their canoes across to settle here. So they gotta go back too!

 

 

[kgwilson]

Right. Now lets all leave. We've buggered the place anyway. I wonder who will take 25 million refugees? Hang on who am I going to sell all my stuff to. There seem to be a few minor issues with all this.

 

 

[spacesailor]

Take your ssheet with you.LoL

 

Spacesailor

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

This lady is well worth listening to:

 

 

This gem of wisdom applies to all our your people:

 

[ATTACH]49552._xfImport[/ATTACH]

 

[Bruce]

What I can't understand is how the bleeding heart feminists, of all people, are against women like this. I have actually heard them use the culture argument to condone such barbarity. And yet they get angry about trivial things in our culture.

 

Personally, I would use removal of citizenship and deportation back to their country of origin so frequently against the lot who bring their rotten culture to our country that they would change their ways. This may actually have had a chance of becoming accepted in those far-off times before the "born overseas " lot were a smaller percentage of the voters.

 

Surely, those who are fleeing their awful country, in fear of their lives they say, would be happy to leave the culture which made it so bad and start again?

 

 

[facthunter]

They don't blame their culture. They blame the Great Satan (USA) who has their fingers all over middle east Oil and the Euro's who drew straight lines all over the place after a war ended.. What if you've been persecuted by Catholics or Hannibal or the Crusaders or you are Palestinian, without a homeland since 1948.? Nev

 

 

[Bruce]

There is history in that Nev, but the present lot of refugees are fleeing ( they say ) persecution from their own people, maybe those belonging to a different sect.

 

Take Ethiopian refugees for example. There would be few of them still alive that remember colonial times or the second world war. The same would go for most of the rest. I once worked with an Iranian whose family sought refuge because they were Bahai and would have been killed ( they said ) if they stayed.

 

It is true that Iraq was badly interfered with and is still semi-occupied by the US, but they are self-governing to the extent of being able to mistreat their own daughters. Look at that video, there is no way that the fault lies anywhere but in their awful culture. Surely they can't blame colonial history for that.

 

 

[coljones]

Many would dispute this; some translations make it clear that it is the duty of every good Moslem to kill unbelievers and to spread the faith by any means.We're told that Moslems should follow the example of the Prophet; he is reputed to have inflicted some particularly nasty violence on anyone resisting his excesses.

Do you have an authoritative source?

 

 

[Bruce]

The Koran says that stuff, so yes Old K does have an authoritative source.

 

 

[Methusala]

There is a lot of occult activity taking place regarding culture wars. Saudis are that main exporters of "extreme Islamic" interpretations of the Muslim religion. They are a dynastic "royal family", ruling with the grace of god (where have we heard this before?

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Do you have an authoritative source?

Col I'm at BNE airport awaiting a flight; I'll post a response when I get settled in NTL.

 

 

[coljones]

The Koran says that stuff, so yes Old K does have an authoritative source.

The Lutheran Church is once again considering Women in the Ministry. It is always interesting seeing how many authoritative sources get trotted out to prop up one argument or another.

 

 

[coljones]

Col I'm at BNE airport awaiting a flight; I'll post a response when I get settled in NTL.

You get around. Enjoy the trip.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Do you have an authoritative source?

Islam and violence.

 

What does the Koran actually say?

 

Plenty of sources say the Koran is about peace and respect for life.

 

Verses of Quran on Jihad

 

Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

 

This source claims the Bible is more violent than the Koran. Christianity has been blamed for much bloodshed in the past, but more recently Islam seems to have taken a clear lead in that department.

 

Many sources make it clear that the Koran's oft-quoted verses telling Moslems to

 

...Kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and capture them, and blockade them, and watch for them at every lookout...” (Quran 9:5).

 

-are actually being taken out of context.

 

The Qur'an and Violence against Non-believers

 

Violence in the Quran - Wikipedia

 

The problem is not so much what the Koran actually says, but rather what some Moslems believe it says. So, when extremists act on these dictates, innocent people are killed and maimed. The violence is extreme and indiscriminate. Men, women and children are slaughtered and crippled almost daily, as they travel, shop in the market or even as they pray in mosques. Whether their holy book actually encourages or condones this or not doesn't seem to matter- it keeps happening.

 

Plenty of commentators claim the Koran only condones violence in defence of Islam.

 

Here Are The Parts Of The Quran That ISIS Uses To Justify Violence Against Iraqi Christians

 

That's a perfect excuse for those Moslems who believe their faith is under attack by the spread of western liberal democratic values.

 

The reality is that, with few exceptions, in the Islamic world minorities are being suppressed, intimidated and subjugated. To our north is the world's largest Moslem nation, where a huge extremist movement threatens to overwhelm the emerging democracy.

 

In Australia as in other countries to which they have migrated, many Moslems resist integrating into the host society. Sweden, like many liberal democracies, welcomed large numbers of Islamic refugees, only to find they resist integrating and now constitute a growing social and criminal problem out of all proportion to their numbers.

 

Q Society of Australia Inc - Australia's Leading Islam-critical Organisation

 

 

[Methusala]

Any defence of "Western Values " needs to explain our record in Middle East, S/E asia, South and Central America. At this very moment the West is prosecuting a very bloody genocide in Yemen, Budhists in Burma another on Rohingyans and this country hectoring war escapees in Nauru. Humans behave like this and any attempt to sheet this home to one "despised" group or another is self serving Cant.

 

 

[facthunter]

The fact is a lot of really bad behavior is justified in the name of some god or other and that's been happening as long as we have recorded things. Looks as if it will keep happening even though we have the best communications imaginable which should have freed up knowledge rather than dogma. We know so much more about why things are as they are but still the horrors and violence get perpetrated to the accompaniment of the Usual "God is Great" rhetoric. People who wear black clothes in really hot places are obviously rather dumb too.. Nev.