The impact of Immigration

[Marty_d]

8 hours ago, randomx said:

You know, and luckily for us, well it would be if our Gov had the brains to do it anyway.

Thing is, they don't even need a brain - which s just as well, all they have to do is study what's working for other countries and what they're doing here to this degree, hasn't worked for any of them. 

Would you believe, even Musk is warning about Australia direction, saw it just the other day.

Wtf has he got to do with anything but that just shows you how bad it is.

 

 

 

 

 

Musk is a rabid fascist. He's made a habit of sticking his nose in other countries business and supporting the worst far right policies and parties.

If Musk is complaining about Australia's immigration then we must have it about right.

[Siso]

 Haven't heard to many people mention "inferior culture". Different cultures maybe, and weather some of these suit Australia's culture. I for one would never go to anther country and try to change or disrespect our culture or traditions. A certain politician who refused to acknowledge the queen when she was sworn into the senate is a good example. another one who won't address the subject of dual nationality.

[Siso]

sorry, meant their culture ect.

[randomx]

4 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Musk is a rabid fascist. He's made a habit of sticking his nose in other countries business and supporting the worst far right policies and parties.

If Musk is complaining about Australia's immigration then we must have it about right.

Yeah not a great example , just sayin.

But what, are you serious that we have it right, you'd have to be under a rock.

[facthunter]

Saying that sort of thing is a bit disrespectful don't you think? Does it advance the argument at all?  IMHO Marty is one of the Last people I would accuse of living UNDER a rock. Perhaps one could ask Honestly what other Places are doing it a whole lot  Better? I went across Melbourne's North east suburbs this Morning Laden trucks are everywhere. Fuel is at all Petrol stations at  lower Prices than they were. No crime or Violence No rude or Bad driving. STOP Bl@@dy Whinging and get on with your Lives and be thankful  Perfection is an illusion. Stop dummy spitting Over the Lib/ Nats self imposed failures. They got what they deserved.  Time to rebuild and stop throwing blame around. The only Poll that counts IS on election day. We have FAIR elections although the Media is all one way, bar a few small and struggling notables. I don't want to Be anywhere BUT HERE.  All things considered.  Nev

[Brendan]

6 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Saying that sort of thing is a bit disrespectful don't you think? Does it advance the argument at all?  IMHO Marty is one of the Last people I would accuse of living UNDER a rock. Perhaps one could ask Honestly what other Places are doing it a whole lot  Better? I went across Melbourne's North east suburbs this Morning Laden trucks are everywhere. Fuel is at all Petrol stations at  lower Prices than they were. No crime or Violence No rude or Bad driving. STOP Bl@@dy Whinging and get on with your Lives and be thankful  Perfection is an illusion. Stop dummy spitting Over the Lib/ Nats self imposed failures. They got what they deserved.  Time to rebuild and stop throwing blame around. The only Poll that counts IS on election day. We have FAIR elections although the Media is all one way, bar a few small and struggling notables. I don't want to Be anywhere BUT HERE.  All things considered.  Nev

You can't rebuild a country with corrupt labour governments.

And now you say there is no crime in Melbourne. Seriously 

[facthunter]

The Govt's are elected fairly and Please  read carefully what I say if you wish to respond  thoughtfully, Not just Sloganise stuff straight from SKY or such. There's plenty of various types of crime anywhere. Where else would YOU rather Live Brendan? (at the end of the day all things considered.) That's the Point I'm Making. Nev

[randomx]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Saying that sort of thing is a bit disrespectful don't you think? Does it advance the argument at all?  IMHO Marty is one of the Last people I would accuse of living UNDER a rock. Perhaps one could ask Honestly what other Places are doing it a whole lot  Better? I went across Melbourne's North east suburbs this Morning Laden trucks are everywhere. Fuel is at all Petrol stations at  lower Prices than they were. No crime or Violence No rude or Bad driving. STOP Bl@@dy Whinging and get on with your Lives and be thankful  Perfection is an illusion. Stop dummy spitting Over the Lib/ Nats self imposed failures. They got what they deserved.  Time to rebuild and stop throwing blame around. The only Poll that counts IS on election day. We have FAIR elections although the Media is all one way, bar a few small and struggling notables. I don't want to Be anywhere BUT HERE.  All things considered.  Nev

Oh crikey.

Not even worth bothering Nev, as you were.

[facthunter]

What's THAT supposed to Mean?  Nev

[onetrack]

So, how come Labor is totally corrupt, and the Liberals and Nationals and One Nation are pure and honest? Sounds like you're just carrying out repeating all the slanted, Labor-hating, Sky News reporting.

 

And if you're going to accuse people in power of corruption, you'd better be able to back it up with proof, or you could become involved in defamation lawsuits.

 

Edited yesterday at 05:33 AM by onetrack

[facthunter]

I think I have tried to point that out B4 re the risk of Legal redress.  The Number of Liberals who Lost there Position due to Fraud etc while holding Ministerial portfolios FAR exceeds that of Labor.  Working for the rich elite who have the wherewithal to show gratitude more effectively is responsible for that.  R.J.Hawke was influenced by Murdoch and Peter Abeles who shared the Ownership of Ansett . .Nev

[Marty_d]

8 hours ago, randomx said:

Yeah not a great example , just sayin.

But what, are you serious that we have it right, you'd have to be under a rock.

I've heard a lot of Sky News talking points and very few facts in this discussion.

If you want to come back to me with some validated statistics of exactly how our current immigration numbers are making life worse here, then I'll listen.

Until then it's all just hot air.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Well I wish Indians were refrained from making phone calls to strangers, trying to understand their Indian English is almost impossible. Why do companies do that? Why don't they employ people who speak plain understandable English?

[nomadpete]

9 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Well I wish Indians were refrained from making phone calls to strangers, trying to understand their Indian English is almost impossible. Why do companies do that? Why don't they employ people who speak plain understandable English?

Are you referring to unsolicited phone calls?

 

I totally agree. They are an insult to our intelligence.

 

But we cannot blame the politicians for it, no matter what political party is in power.

 

Further, I cannot stand the businesses that persist in using foreign call centres. Or A.I. voice prompts.

 

But I still cannot blame politicians for such business decisions that create  poor customer service (even the big profitable banks are often guilty of it).

 

 

[randomx]

12 hours ago, Marty_d said:

I've heard a lot of Sky News talking points and very few facts in this discussion.

If you want to come back to me with some validated statistics of exactly how our current immigration numbers are making life worse here, then I'll listen.

Until then it's all just hot air.

Don't even watchem. There are professors and experts, economists, of all kinds warning about it as we speak.

lt's common sense though mate not rocket science, gave a lot of my reasons already you don't even need to hear it from anyone no matter who they are it's a no brainer.

But alas, no use coming back to you or anyone about anything Marty, doesn't matter what you think or me either, carrying on in forums doesn't change one damn thing. Wish it did.

 

Edited 10 hours ago by randomx

[randomx]

Even if you just if you completely skip the rest, forget it all, and just think housing.

That one huge thing alone SCREAMS, stop effg immigration.

Not rocket science .

[Marty_d]

No. It doesn't. There are a heap of factors that go into house prices including supply, number of tradies, planning rules, land zoning, capital gains discounts, short term holiday houses (Airbnb), etc.

Again - looking for a simple solution to a complex problem.

[onetrack]

Stopping immigration completely will not make the housing problem go away. Stopping huge investments in our housing by overseas investors such as the Chinese will go some way to help the housing problem. There are serious numbers of houses owned by Chinese investors that are purposely kept empty, because of the Chinese attitude towards property investing. This has to stop.

 

Plus, all investors must be made to produce proof of the origins of their money in line with AUSTRAC reporting. As it is, real estate agents, solicitors and others in the real estate industry are not obliged to report people purchasing properties with suitcases full of cash money.

 

It is legend here on the West Coast that Chinese buyers turn up to real estate agencies with suitcases full of cash, to prove they have the money and don't need to finance the property. This is a glaring hole in our control of legal money origins.

[old man emu]

But how does a seller deposit hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash into a bank account. Here in NSW deposits of $10,000+ in cash must be documented. I remember having to do so when I was a cop and was depositing seized drug money at my local bank into the holding account that the police had.

[Marty_d]

Glad you mentioned the holding account OME

[old man emu]

This time I was being serious.

[Marty_d]

I'm sure you were, but if you just read this sentence 

"...when I was a cop and was depositing seized drug money at my local bank"

It gives a different impression...

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Like Roger Rogerson.

[facthunter]

He ended up well and truly Rogered. . Nev

[old man emu]

38 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

I'm sure you were, but if you just read this sentence 

"...when I was a cop and was depositing seized drug money at my local bank"

It gives a different impression...

 

 

Ah! The problem with trying to represent the spoken word with the written word. One loses the nuances.