Americanism over riding Aus, why don't people care.

[randomx]

Hi , new here but eh, gotta start somewhere right. Something l was reminded of today yet again in just what hope do we have when 1/2 of Aussies don't seem to giva toss, if they're even aware of the Americanism we're allowing here. l feel so strongly about it though and just wish Gov's and people in general had the guts to do something.

l was in another thread about it somewhere and there were at least some Aussies do also feeling very strongly about it but today - on a Radio show , was the last straw.

l can not stand this station or this bloke, can l mention it but it' ? 3aw, Tom Elliot, which unfortunately l'm forced to listen to last few wks when l do feel like some radio bc where l am atm this is the only station l can pick up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[randomx]

Sorry about that , 1st post here, pressed something and it sent off before l finished then wouldn't edit later.

Any rate- so here's this Elliot on national radio, asking an American , if "we" should start having Their Thanks giving - Just what in hell, and he's asking an American.

Next minute he's talking to some expert about the Americanism creeping into our language, especially our young, and neither of these geniuses could figure out why. Ahhhh, well, we're force fed training through the internet bc every other country has a language choice in settings even in English, UK, American, Canadian but press Australian- nothing. Our young are force fed American terms and spelling from

the day they can type and so is everyone else. Our Gov's are so damn useless they can't even manage to fix that so that our young are raised in Australian.

Next minute, he says oh ,maybe we should become the 51ist state - whattttt???? , How did Canada react to that idea , a damn finger to that- AS THEY BLOODY SHOULD , loud and clear. How did Greenland react to it - same again.

Yet here's this fool actually offering his country, our country on a platter.  l wouldn't believe it if l didn't hear it.

 

Next he goes on about our demonstrations and our crime, well. Our demos are nothing, nothing compared to anywhere OS demo's but at least some of our Aussies unlike Elliott are willing to stand up. But the American demos , my God ,wake up man.

But he's oh, we should adopt the American laws - what in hell ???? He even brought up their Floyd demo's but somehow forgets they were destroying cities, public and private property, people were killed and that's in the middle of Covid. Which imo was more o a typical American tantrum actually anyway moreso about the Covid rules.

But crime, wth . again. Yeah l'm disgusted with the way our crimes going here but the American ways, whattttt.

lt's the most dangerous unsafe country in the Western world. Has he even seen their numbers. Oh you have to dig for those it's not even on their news like it is here but you should see the numbers it's mind blowing- yet this fools saying we should blah blah.

 

Well, excuse the rant, especially 1st post.

l hope people hear see what's going on though and l for one just wish Aussies would have a bit of pride in ourselves , our country our Australian-ism and build on and save what culture we do have left . l seem to be one of the few though.

Youknow,the UK are fighting Americanism they hate it, there's even books out about it , but here's us, and it's a sad disgrace if you ask me.

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 11:24 AM by randomx

[onetrack]

Yes, the insidious American culture takeover is everywhere, even the Europeans and the Asian nations get annoyed about how pervasive it is.

Fortunately, I think we still have enough Australians in the general public and Australia politicians who are prepared to say No to any more increased level of American influence.

 

Luckily for us, Trump is doing his best to ensure that American culture is shown up for what it is - violent, self-absorbed, a xenophobic hatred of minorities or anyone who isn't Anglo-Saxon in ancestry, gun-fondlers, and bitterly divisive, politically.

 

Welcome to the forum randomx, I'm sure you'll be able to express your opinion here without the rancor, divisiveness, and hatred that comes with American culture.

I'm personally of the opinion a lot of Americans still bear deep bitterness and hatred against blacks, because they believe they still should be just slaves, and second-class citizens.

 

P.S. - You get 15 mins to edit your posts here, so proof read, or correct them quickly. After that time, they're set in stone. The idea is to keep threads readable, because if people go back after hours and days and many further replies, and then edit their original post, the thread becomes unreadable and disjointed.

 

Edited yesterday at 12:29 PM by onetrack

[Marty_d]

If you're listening to a radio personality who's suggesting we become the 51st state, I'd suggest you change the channel.

[red750]

Marty, he said it's the only station he can get down where he lives.

 

I know you can't believe 98% of what you read on Facebook, but even Republican insiders are contemplating the 25th Amendment, and some saying America should become Canada's 11th Province.

[pmccarthy]

Aussie journos are using airplane now not aeroplane.

[Marty_d]

7 hours ago, red750 said:

Marty, he said it's the only station he can get down where he lives.

 

I know you can't believe 98% of what you read on Facebook, but even Republican insiders are contemplating the 25th Amendment, and some saying America should become Canada's 11th Province.

Pretty sure ABC has almost the whole country covered, and if you can get data on your phone you can listen to whatever station you want.

[randomx]

l couldn't agree more onetrack, honestly. Growing up anything Yank/American, was always a bit of a joke but these days in Oz now , 1/2 of us just seem so besotted with anything American. Yet it's blindly to that's one of the really scary parts of it.People don't seem to see past some glitzy image but yet the few things l mentioned and yourself to, are only part of it. The supposedly most advanced country in the world had the worst Covid deaths on the planet, it's common place talk to any American and they'd lost at least a few friends- standard stuff. Their violence/gun culture, homelessness on and on, yet here's this fool and others on that broadcast sayin crap like that, mind blowing.

But yeah , l'm at my cabin for a few wks atm and l use to get plenty of channels atm though, dk what's happened, and nope not even ABC, kinda glad l caught that one though bc it's reminded me yet again man, something needs to be done, we need to wake the hell up in this country.

Thank the Gods to hear then we still have some Pollies actually aware to and thanks for that, just hope there's enough of them to keep the crap going on at bay. You do notice many of them are even actually starting to listen to Pauline these days . love her hate her there are some areas where she def' has huge points on the very things ruining our country as we speak now, yet she's been warning 20yrs. But yeah l know the UK are dead against more Americanism and nice to hear then that other parts are to, wish we'd wake the hell up here, felt the same.

 

Haaa, Canada's 11th state , love it. l love that Carney gave the Yanks and especially Trump the finger, man he was brilliant. And they're still at it Canada's branching trade out into other parts now rather than dealing with Trump and has huge stuff going on.Good on em

 

The spelling thing pm , it drives me crazy . But these days you just thing God almighty what hope is there when yeah, even our reporters don't even seem to know our spelling these days, it makes me sick.

Ass, is one of my pet hates. Growing up it spelt and said the European way, arse- now l know that's not a kind of well urr, word, butttt. To hear and see it spelt ass, even by our young people now , makes me sick. Most don't even know our spelling bc their damn internet just corrects it to ass and there's many others to as you say, there's so much more and you can see it taking over, it's sickening.

lt's like though what hope do we have when our own teachers, pollies , journo's , idiot radio people , can't even straighten it out for their own people. They can't even build an Ausssie spell checker, they probably haven't even thought of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[old man emu]

3 minutes ago, randomx said:

arse- now l know that's not a kind of well urr, word,

G'day randomix. Just to let you know, "arse" is a fine ancient word in English.  Old English ærs "tail, rump," from Proto-Germanic *arsoz (source also of Old Saxon, Old High German, Old Norse ars, Middle Dutch ærs, German Arsch "buttock").

 

Using "ass" to describe an arse is just an example of American misprounciation.

[randomx]

That language thing alone , l mean that is huge. Ours here was a huge part of who we are and even tourists loved trying to wangle the Aussie accent and terms, we were famous for it all over the world and good for us, it was Australian.

Tell you what, l never do stuff like this but l'm even thinking of emailing someone in Canberra and trying to get something done before we're so lost it's too late. Ha , maybe l should email Pauline, maybe her people will build a damn spell checker.

Actually , any ideas about whom l could email about that that might actually help , or maybe someone here a far far better writer than me would like to do it. ldk, on that alone, something has to be done.

Edited yesterday at 09:25 PM by randomx

[randomx]

Gday onetrack man, so refreshing. Hey, l reckon it's a damn fine word too and l can not stand the American pronunciation.

Cheers for that.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Hi and welcome to the forums, @randomx.

 

10 hours ago, randomx said:

Ahhhh, well, we're force fed training through the internet bc every other country has a language choice in settings even in English, UK, American, Canadian but press Australian- nothing. Our young are force fed American terms and spelling from

Sorry to spoil the party a bit..  I am not sure what training is forced through the internet. And what training is done through the internet (online) is usually provided by the relevant institution/organisation/company... There isn't some US central course contrent creation machine that provides courses for everyone. No doubt some of the course creation software is American, but I have found all of my Aussie courses in the King's English. Though I do accept, I haven't seen the term budgie smugglers in any of the Aussie online courses I have taken. 

 

As for spell checkers not containing Australian English, here is a screen shot of some of the English proofing languages  from my 2019 version of Microsoft Word (yep - 6 years old now, and I am sure English - Australian was available before that):

 

While I agree that American culture has been disproprtioantely pervasive, I would suggest in Australia it started with the commertical TV networks importing cheap American shows, movies, and even news rather than fund home grown talent. The internet has helped further cement American culture dominance, but the internet is also now helping other cultures to be heard. One of my son's favourite bands is a Tibetan music band; my daughter is playing French artists on her phone as I type. In fact, it is I and my partner that play Amercian music more than them. 

 

But don't worry.. In about 10 years, we'll all be speaking Mandarin anyway. 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[facthunter]

Don't EVER listen to 3AW. It will destroy your Mind. Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Except for the footy call, of course.. that is just pure comedy

[nomadpete]

Not only 3AW. 

When working, I spent long hours driving in regional and remote places. Sadly, too often the only commercial radio available was the infamous John Laws or Alan Jones. These chaps invariably irritated and annoyed me. I feel their long term (divisive, biased shock jock) influence remains, and might still influence voters.

 

 

 

[old man emu]

I caught myself using the word "guy" recently, and chatised myself for using an Americanism. However, I soon recalled the Gunpowder Plot in which Guy Fawkes was  a key figure in the Gunpowder Plot to blow up British king and Parliament (Nov. 5, 1605). His capture and eventual execution is celebrated every year on the 5th of November. Effigies were paraded through the streets by children on the anniversary of the conspiracy.  I don't know if the fireworks are still used in Britain, but I recall that kids used to go about asking "a penny for the Guy?". 

 

The American use of the word meaning "fellow" appears from 1847.