Aussie Federal election 2025

[Marty_d]

I thought Albo's speech was quite generous, especially when he mentioned Dutton and someone in the crowd jeered - Albo stopped them and reminded them to be respectful.

Mind you he did pick out one Labor candidate to congratulate, who just happened to be Ali France - who won the seat of Dickson (the seat previously belonging to Dutton).

[Litespeed]

Voldemort has been booted.

 

Awesome

[red750]

Looks like Adam Bandt could also lose his seat.

[Jerry_Atrick]

It has been a very bad night for the Greens.. no doubt about that

 

[old man emu]

Isn't amazing that four Liberal Prime Ministers or Party leaders lost their seats in general elections in the past 25 years? Turnbull resigned his seat, and in the by-election the Party lost it.

[facthunter]

Dutton is LNP. A party that only exists in QLD.  The LIBERALS  will have to work out WHAT they ARE from now into the Future  The Coalition is an unholy alliance designed to Keep Labor Out  as it's Primary purpose.  The terms of that arrangement is not disclosed.  The concept that ALL polllies are crooks is NOT true. News is not the good works done. You don't get to hear about THAT. The NEWS is VIEWS to promote Fear and HATE, and get you cranky.

  The Greens support is stable at about 12% and their Senate numbers will reflect that. It's harder to get into the Lower House of Reps  where you must win in your electorate. Big Wipe out of the Libs in Tassie. Sorry to see Bridget Archer go.  She's an honest, brave and worthy Rep. Nev

Edited Sunday at 01:13 AM by facthunter

[spacesailor]

Perhaps  ' something fishi ' , to do with " samon farming "  .

it is    big business. 

spacesailor

[facthunter]

Part of the General swing I would suggest. Nev

[onetrack]

The part of this election that gives me huge satisfaction is seeing Clive Palmer get his Trumpet shoved up his arse, and seeing him spend $60M for nothing - and sighting a major collapse in his share of the vote, from a former 4.1% to just 1.8%. That, despite his party promising a 15% tax on iron ore exports to help reduce the national debt. Just goes to show, how voters don't trust a word he says.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/elections/federal/2025/results/party-totals

[onetrack]

I'm chuckling over some of the election comments. Jacob Greber's quote (ABC), re the shocking Liberal loss - "It's like one of those gory horror movies, where half the headline cast gets decapitated before the first act is over..."

[rgmwa]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Sorry to see Bridget Archer go.  She's an honest, brave and worthy Rep. Nev

I'm surprised she went. She was doing a good job. 

[facthunter]

Her own mob (Libs) didn't like her. She crossed the floor. (allowed in theory but just don't try it.) Nev

[red750]

In reference to Peter Overton's comment in Nine's coverage, this has been reported.

 

Amnesty International agreed the term Aborigine is not acceptable.

 

'You're more likely to make friends by saying Aboriginal person, Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander,' the non-profit said.

 

'If you can, try using the person's clan or tribe name and if you are talking about both Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, it's best to say either Indigenous Australians or Indigenous people'.  

 

'Without a capital a, aboriginal can refer to an Indigenous person from anywhere in the world. The word means original inhabitant in Latin.'

[pmccarthy]

Like Albo at Christmas, when the angels said no L.

[Jerry_Atrick]

There'll be a lot of soul searching in the Liberal party for a bit..

 

Where did it all go wrong?

 

I have a bit of advice to them.. Steer the ship from conservatively regressive to convertatively progressive.. the voter demographics are moving and they ain't moving with them.

[red750]

Another report, or opinion  I read before it disappeared, said that one of the prime policies of Dutton, later recalled, would have turned about 37% of voters away. That was the decision to end work from home, which was later reduced to public servants only, before being dropped. 37% of workers work from home and like it that way. Another was the establishment of a DOGE-like force, under Jacinta Price. Even the "Get Australia Back on Track" slogan smacked of Trump, hence Albo's reference to not needing inspiration from overseas. My daughter didn't like Dutton, saying he was too rightwing extreme. 

 

Personally, I hate work from home. My son works from home 3 days a week,,normally the days I go to the Men's Shed, but his shift times from 10:30 am to 7:30 pm, every week, make me spitting mad. His 'office' is a computer desk with laptop and two elevated 26" monitors in the family room, partly in front of my TV and I have to have the TV on mute until he logs off. Closed captions are useless and his 'office' won't fit in his room. My wife bought him a king-size Chainsaw Massacre bed that tilts up with storage under it a few years ago, which fills the room.

 

[spacesailor]

Use " Bluetooth headphones "   just cheapies as you are close to the TV .

( presumed modern TV ) .

spacesailor

[red750]

Not that modern. It doesn't have bluetooth.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Another of his regressive policies. Over here, government employees working from home became an issue because the press reported that there were excrutiatingly long waiting times for passports after COVID lockdowns. The press attributed it to government employees working from home, when  it is a private company that actually prints them - the government employees do th identity and security cheecks. After COVID, there was a massive backlog that had to be cleared.

 

I think for Dutton - what was the problem he was trying to solve? Is there reduced procutvity as a result of these people working from home? Or was it just some attempt at being populist - or some perception of exerting additional control? Whle I sympathise with you, Peter, and working from home is not for everyone, for many these days, it is a boom. For the employer - they rarely pay the electricity, heating, and internet expenses, so they can reduce their building footprint and saving money. Also, many of us, when working from home will add at least the normal commute time to our day in the virtual office, so they are automatically getting more from us. And, many spend money in their local economy, so it reinvigrates local areas.

 

Of course, the commercial real estate market has been tough as a result, and the city centre economy takes a bit of a hit. But even pre-COVID there was a move to working from home, and one bank I had worked for aleady had most of its people working from home most of the time.

 

I was talking to a friend who is a partner at a mid-sized legal firm specialising in commercial real estate transactions. He was remonstrating agains the work from home trend, while I was supporting it. When I said I took a new job during COVID and it woul dbe 9 months before I set foot in the office, yet had already been promoted and it was a successful period for me, he made the point that I am experienced, but for interns, it is difficult. I disputed it on two grounds - first, the hybrid method seems to be the go, and therefoire interns can get the instruction and build up the connections they need. And secondly, a lot of kids these days have online socialisation - there are firends my son and daughter have that they are unlikely to meet in the flesh, but they connect via video link, and exchange birthday and christmas gifts, have meaningul interactions - it expands their horizons. 

 

It seemed to be another example of conservative regression  wanting to hold onto the past when people have already moved forward...

 

Peter - your son should be afforded the time to work in the office..

[red750]

Maybe it was to appease those who can't work from home - tradies, bus drivers, train drivers, medical professional, people in service industries, etc.

[red750]

She's got to be kidding herself.

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

6 minutes ago, red750 said:

Maybe it was to appease those who can't work from home - tradies, bus drivers, train drivers, medical professional, people in service industries, etc.

Maybe, but how much do the tradies care? Over here, the head if CBRE, one of the worlds largest commercial real estate companies specialising in management, surveying, and sales, wrote a scathing article of offikce workers acting like rock stars, wanting to work from home. And one of the things he wrote was its inherent unfairness as tradies froze outside in winter and baked outside in summer. Most tradies I know thought it was a joke - the office workers sit in nice heated offices in winter and air-conditioned offices in summer - while the tradies still have to work outside.

 

I would be surprised if too many tradies, others than ones that work on commercial real estate, could give a hoot.

[Litespeed]

Besides the big end of town complaints and Duttons bullshit tax free entertainment plan for bussiness- basically to boost the biggest pub owners profits.

 

He had no clue about the real world, esp. the 12 mth only excise drop compared to all taxpayers getting a permanent cut. That just fostered more car/ mega ute use. So more traffic and greater commute times with more pollution and oil profits.

 

Work from home has actually increased productivity, reduced traffic peaks, reduced pollution and greatly added to family life. It also saved a lot of travel/ car expenses.

For working parents it meant not needing to spend most of your wage on childcare, if you can get a place.

 

Fundamentally it has been a social policy boom and economically a success. It also provides a more balanced life for parents and kids.

For tradies it means lower travel times and owners are available when you come to do work at homes.

 

It's a Work to Live policy.

 

Live to Work is LNP DNA, they hate the idea of workers having any power.

 

For a so called liberal/national party of small government they sure love telling us how to live, what to think and spending public money on private profits.

[old man emu]

If there is one good thing that came out of COVID it was work-from-home. As Litespeed says, it has changed the lives of very many from a "work to live" existence.

 

I wonder, though, what percentage of the workforce can actually take advantage of working from home. I would say that the vast majority of the workforce cannot, due to the jobs they have, from Uber drivers to international airline pilots. Think of the teachers, childcare workers, retail workers. The list is extensive.

[Marty_d]

I don't know that the LNP are going to actually learn anything from this result.

Littleproud was on the radio today blaming the loss on, believe it or not... "Labor demonized Peter Dutton!"

 

Obviously not because they had no policies apart from negative ones (how the hell do you oppose tax cuts AND have a higher deficit?), the stopping work from home bullshit, the cutting 41,000 public servants bullshit, the rolling back of climate action, the idiotic nuclear plans sometime in the next 20 years, the whiff of Trumpism, the shambolic campaign, and the desperate attempts to play the culture wars.

 

This is not 1950. If the LNP want to recover from this they need to stop living in the past and thinking that Sky News represents any sort of reality.

 

But no, it's all because Labor demonized Peter Dutton.