old man emu Posted 16 hours ago Author Posted 16 hours ago Trump has earned a place in History. He has single-handedly destroyed a global civilisation that took oveer 7000 years and billions of lives to create. And the members of the Republican Party of the USA are co-conspirators. 1 1
nomadpete Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, old man emu said: Trump has earned a place in History. That's a certainty. However i cannot give him credit for single handedly destroying a global civilisation. Civilisation (not always civil) will stumble on regardless. The tangerine toddler has simply acted out all the hidden failings of the world order. Failings that were previously dormant, or simply hidden, and until he came along, weaknesses were slowly eroding the moral fibre of world order. For instance, governments of most countries have always suffered from CEO type rot. The job description calls for a ruthless, results driven psychopath, usually overpaid. It doesn't call for a considerate egalitarian, fairminded person. The USA has a history of overt selfishness. Their glorification of capitalism overrides the welfare of the populace. Politics and War is all about making money. It's just that tRump makes it so obvious. As with our Australian system, both major parties are plainly in the pockets of the megarich. That is certainly not ethical. Edited 12 hours ago by nomadpete 1 1 1
facthunter Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago BOTH major parties? DO you really think so? The Libs are almost extinct and they were supported by the mega rich. Perilous Pauline is supported by Rinehart and Worships Trump. LITTLE to be PROUD of is supported by Coal and Gas Interests, and represents Bugga All % of the Population. Labor is never supported by the Media or the Rich. Nev 2 1
nomadpete Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Yes, Nev. And labor signed off the obscene Woodside gas deal, and also passed special laws to enable the foreign owned salmon fish farms to have special pollution exemptions. So I say, 'both major parties.' 1 1 1
nomadpete Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago One party is the shyte party, and the other is the shyte lite party. Just because one is a bit less dodgy than the other, doesn't make sun shine from it's orifice. 1 1
facthunter Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Not a very Deep and Meaningful assessment. Labor has a bad business Plan. Trying to help people who have no money to show their gratitude Just WHO IS the Other MAJOR Party Pete? Nev 1
nomadpete Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 38 minutes ago, facthunter said: Just WHO IS the Other MAJOR Party Pete? Nev I understand and agree with your view that Lib/Nat coalition is in poor shape, but in our political environment, they are still considered 'major'. Even though they only represent a minor threat at present. I hope you aren't suggesting the examples I gave, are in some way making the poor better off? Edited 11 hours ago by nomadpete 1 1
red750 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago David Littleproud has resigned as leader of the National Party. However, this topic is about Trump and what he does. 1
randomx Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 4 hours ago, nomadpete said: Yes, Nev. And labor signed off the obscene Woodside gas deal, and also passed special laws to enable the foreign owned salmon fish farms to have special pollution exemptions. So I say, 'both major parties.' Labors done just about everything possible to basically gut Australia. Silly bloody Aussies just don't know it yet and our Aussies that need a house or will in the future- like ahhh, our children for example, are also atm screwed. Edited 8 hours ago by randomx
randomx Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, old man emu said: Trump has earned a place in History. He has single-handedly destroyed a global civilisation that took oveer 7000 years and billions of lives to create. And the members of the Republican Party of the USA are co-conspirators. l think Albo should be up there with him for the Australian portion of the world.
Jerry_Atrick Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago To say Albo is the Aussie version of Chump, IMHO, is a bit rich. I agree with @nomadpete - he represents the less ship party, but it so far is not making some of the fundamental changes needed. I sympathise with Albo et al.. and I imagine, given his history in Labnor where we was firmly on the socialist left faction of the party, having to walk the balance of a small but powerful set of vested interests versus what is in his mind better for the community would not be an easy job. And between him and anything that the LNP have served up from Howard onwards, I would prefer him and his team and suggest Australia would poltiically and economically be in a lot better shape - assuming hubris didn't set in like it normally does. While the media play its part, in the second election of Labor, they increased their majority - so Aussies aren't quite as beholden to the media as we like to think. But the reality is for the majority of Australians, life is getting worse in a material sense while for the elite, it seems to be getting disproprotionately better and Labor are perceived as not doing enough to change things for what they promise and/orstand for. There are challenges in making change - defiinitely. And in a global economy, it is very difficult to stand up against vested interests without some real ramifications. If you think QANTAS taking its maintenance facilities to a low cost country is not representative of threats that are made to governments who want to introduce changes to even things up, think again. Many companies here have moved operations overseas because they could get a better deal and the government stared down their threats. If you lose employment as a government, there is a backlash. GBut that still does not mean we should not crticise poor judgment or performace,because it is not as poor as the other mob. That just permits the race to the bottom and people get fed up and the nutty protest parties flourish. The UK has shown this, and now, unbelievably for a country such as Australia, One Nation is getting a look in beyond rabid loonies. Of course, the US has made the protest person their leader on some chumped up promises.. but so detached from the real world are the political elite, that people have had enough. Its sort of what my Iranian employee said, it's sad it has to come to this, but something has to change. 1 1 1
rgmwa Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, randomx said: l think Albo should be up there with him for the Australian portion of the world. Scomo and Abbot were a lot worse. 2 1
randomx Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago For sure , couldn't stand either of them either , or Howard. lmo, there's no one out of either of the two main worth even voting for. 1
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