Albo's question

[facthunter]

There are ways to qualify for that and some boilers are less dangerous. A conventional boiler is potentially quite dangerous if a tube fails etc..  Similar applies to driving some steam cars  Nev

Edited April 24, 2023 by facthunter

[Jerry_Atrick]

Back to the question:

 

[nomadpete]

I do see something important being tangentally highlighted by Spud. Yeah, it irks me to say that. But ...

 

Note that he is making straw man arguments about the dangers of setting up a constitutional right for a direct voice for an interest group to directly advise executive government.

 

Bear in mind His party, whilst in government, historically accepted advice from lobby groups on matters relating to fossil fuels. And it appeared to me they made executive decisions about energy policy that didn't reflect the will of the majority. Remember the infamous lump of coal, new coal & gas mining,  etc?

So I believe (apart from spud objecting to the 'voice' just because he is in opposition) he understands just how insidious lobby groups can be. And if the voice is not there to lobby (advise), they have no purpose.

[kgwilson]

LNPs lobby groups paid and paid handsomly to keep them in power. Lobby groups like the fossil fuel industry want the pound of flesh they have paid for and the LNP rolls over every time. The moderates saw this but there were too many on the right to stop it, the squabbling began to get worse, the Independents arose from the ashes & the rest is history.

 

Dutton & Ley are living in a differnt world now where their support base is reducing daily and they still continue with the same baseless rhetoric.

[facthunter]

There was a branch stacking excercise to get SUSSan Ley Dis endorsed recently so it's not all wine and Roses in "wrong Button"  Duttons  ( send in the troops) , camp. Nev

[willedoo]

This full-page no campaign ad in the Australian Financial Review has stirred things up. I'm surprised the AFR editorial allowed it.

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by willedoo

[Marty_d]

I can't see that swinging hearts and minds.  Most Australians spend money at Coles & Bunnings, not own shares in them.

[facthunter]

It will. It's on message for them and co-incides with Dutton's attack on them for being weak.  Nev