Consequences of the 2026 fuel crisis

[red750]

54 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

That fire is too much of a coincidence.

The refinery is 70 years old. They say it was an equipment failure that caused it.

[red750]

My son has been on holiday in Thailand with mates for 10 days. He was due to fly home tonight, arriving sometime in the morning.

 

He texted to say his flight had been cancelled. I'm assuming it was a fuel situation. Another text a few minutes ago to say he had been moved to another flight arriving 12 am Sunday. Fingers crossed.

[facthunter]

Fact free speculation PMc C?  Nev

[pmccarthy]

3 hours ago, facthunter said:

Fact free speculation PMc C?  Nev

Yes, absolutely fact free. It's like when my friend died of heart failure just after his first Covid injection. I can't help wondering.

[facthunter]

 I can't see the connection with the oil refinery which is old and external Factors have been ruled  out of  involvement  with the failure. . Let's be clear. Nev

[octave]

Obviously the fire was started by radical leftist EV owners seeking to overthrow the capitalist system....... or a faulty valve.

[old man emu]

38 minutes ago, octave said:

Obviously the fire was started by radical leftist EV owners seeking to overthrow the capitalist system....... or a faulty valve.

That's valve-ist!!!!!

[randomx]

18 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

That fire is too much of a coincidence.

 

Yeah l was thinking that. Don't ever remember a fire there before.

 

 

 

[octave]

I believe there was an explosion and fire at this refinery in 1961 (before my time). 2 fatalities and 2 injuries 

[randomx]

Ahhh right , yeah mine too.

But anyway, God knows. Lot of different nationalities in Geelong these days though, first thing came to mind. Someone could have a gripe with the war stuff.

Edited Friday at 05:32 AM by randomx

[facthunter]

Refineries are Just the Place for Fires. Why are we trying to conjure up a conspiracy?Nev

[octave]

Oil Refinery Fires in Australia

• 2026 – Geelong Oil Refinery (Viva Energy)
  Large fire with explosions; burned ~13 hours; no injuries.
• 2018 – Kwinana Oil Refinery (BP)
  Fire in processing unit; contained; no major injuries.
• 2004 – Kwinana Oil Refinery (BP)
  Fire and explosion during maintenance; several injuries.
• 1994 – Clyde Refinery (Shell)
  Processing unit fire; limited injuries.
• 1984 – Port Stanvac Refinery (ExxonMobil)
  Operational fire; contained.
• 1970s–2010s – Altona Refinery (ExxonMobil)
  Multiple minor fires; no major catastrophic event.

[willedoo]

The premier announced today that the government is in talks with some private companies regarding building a new fuel refinery, most likely in the Gladstone area. A push toward fuel sovereignty is the plan.

[facthunter]

We still need the crude to refine, but eventually we will have to stop Burning this stuff. Nev

[willedoo]

We've got plenty of gas and existing gas pipelines going to Gladstone, but oil might have some challenges. Small marginal fields at the moment. Jackson is done and dusted, Moonie not what it used to be and Ballera is gas. Bits of oil here and there, but making it economically feasable is the big issue.

[nomadpete]

58 minutes ago, willedoo said:

but making it economically feasable is the big issue.

They are already working on that.

 

Probably economically feasible when the pump price hits $6/ltr. Or so.

[willedoo]

I remember a few years ago the Americans were trialling alternative jet fuels. From memory it was coal gasified and then they would convert that gas to jet fuel. They successfully test ran a B-52 running four of it's eight engines on the fuel. The problem at the time was they said oil had to hit $80/barrel to gain any saving from the alternate fuel. At the time it was a fair bit below that.

[facthunter]

According to the ABC, Europe has a Big Jet fuel shortage looming. Nev

[nomadpete]

22 minutes ago, facthunter said:

According to the ABC, Europe has a Big Jet fuel shortage looming. Nev

It's time to bring back the horse drawn tourist bus!

[randomx]

Shit, l use to live in Altona through some of that period.

 

But anyway, so we have had fires before, well that's sorta good news then that's probably all this one is.

[old man emu]

We coulld stop selling canola overseas and turn it into bio-diesel.

[willedoo]

It would be good if we could turn canola into urea as well. That way we could grow canola to make urea and diesel to grow canola.

[pmccarthy]

8 hours ago, facthunter said:

We still need the crude to refine, but eventually we will have to stop Burning this stuff. Nev

This could be true, but it is many decades away. 1.6% of our cars are electric. The percentage of heavy vehicles is so small it is a rounding error. At the best historical rates of fleet replacement we have barely begun to change. And the replacements are still dominated by non electric vehicles and will be for the foreseeable future for a range of reasons. An economic recession is inevitable and no one will be rushing to replace their car. And anyway, oil is needed for many non fuel purposes.

[randomx]

Heard yesterday there are more than 60 ships on their way to Aus right now. Surely that'll tie things over who knows how long frickin lot of oil.

 

At any rate, our prices actually went down here last few days got diesel for 290 Sat. Dunno for how long but eh l'll take it.

 

 

[red750]

According to an AI enquiry, as of 2024, Australia uses 1.14 million barrels of oil per day.

How much did Albo secure with all his flying around Asia?