Middle East conflict

[facthunter]

Iranians are NOT Arabs.  BTW did anyone watch Trumps SPEECH about 2 Hours ago? Nev

[Siso]

26 minutes ago, Litespeed said:

Provocation is the excuse of bullies, tyrants and murderous regimes.

 

So, when a child throws a rock at a invading tank, that's sufficient to shoot them dead?

 

Happens daily and Israel just justifies itself.

So its OK if they come into a country, kill 1400? civilians as well as other incursions over the last few years. Is Israel just supposed to talk about and contact their local Employee assistance program to help them get over it? 

[facthunter]

No one thinks that Incursion was Justified But why did BIBI Ignore the Advice from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood that  Something BIG was about to Happen and where was Mossad at the time?   Israel is also Clearly expansionist. Nev

[rgmwa]

41 minutes ago, facthunter said:

BTW did anyone watch Trumps SPEECH about 2 Hours ago? Nev

Yes. I think he just read out the last four weeks of his midnight Truth Social rants. 

Edited 4 hours ago by rgmwa

[Marty_d]

48 minutes ago, Siso said:

So its OK if they come into a country, kill 1400? civilians as well as other incursions over the last few years. Is Israel just supposed to talk about and contact their local Employee assistance program to help them get over it? 

Of course it's not ok. But do you think the response was proportionate? 

[old man emu]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Iranians are NOT Arabs.

That's right. The nation originated from the migration of Indo-Iranian tribes (Medes, Persians, Parthians) from Central Asia to the Iranian Plateau around the 2nd millennium BC. They established some of the first civilisations in the region of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Their religion was Zoroastrianism. It is one of the world's oldest monotheistic faiths, founded in ancient Persia (modern-day Iran) by Prophet Zoroaster. Its influence was reduced by Islamisation during the 7th Century CE. A lot escaped to India where they mainly live in Mumbai.

 

Persian (Fārsi) is the official language of Iran, spoken natively by roughly 50-70% of the population and understood by most others. As an Indo-European language, it is unrelated to Arabic, though it uses a modified Arabic script.

 

 

[Siso]

54 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Of course it's not ok. But do you think the response was proportionate? 

Maybe, maybe not. I have never been in this position, but I feel it was about more than just this one incident.

[rgmwa]

19 minutes ago, Siso said:

Maybe, maybe not. I have never been in this position, but I feel it was about more than just this one incident.

Yes, it was also about Netanyahu trying to keep himself in power and out of prison.

[Siso]

2 minutes ago, rgmwa said:

Yes, it was also about Netanyahu trying to keep himself in power and out of prison.

mmmm!

[Marty_d]

33 minutes ago, Siso said:

Maybe, maybe not. 

That idiot from Australia went to NZ and gunned down 51 people.

If NZ then invaded Australia, killing 2500 people of which maybe 100 were white supremacists, and destroyed masses of public infrastructure including your house, would you think it was a fair response?

Because that's what Israel has done.

[red750]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

Iranians are NOT Arabs.  BTW did anyone watch Trumps SPEECH about 2 Hours ago? Nev

Well it was on the tele at the Shed, but I couldn't hear it. Others talking over the top of him, making jokes, and someone in the workshop using the belt sander. But I knew he was lying, his lips were moving.

[Siso]

 

24 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

That idiot from Australia went to NZ and gunned down 51 people.

If NZ then invaded Australia, killing 2500 people of which maybe 100 were white supremacists, and destroyed masses of public infrastructure including your house, would you think it was a fair response?

Because that's what Israel has done.

apples and oranges, 1 person goes and kills a heap of people is a lot different to a state sponsored mass killing, especially if they have been poking the bear for many years. It is not nearly the same thing!

[facthunter]

Who's been poking who? It goes back to about 1948.. Nev

[Siso]

12 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Who's been poking who? It goes back to about 1948.. Nev

Yes it is a complicated situation. How far do you actually want to go back. Its been going a lot longer than that.

[facthunter]

Once they start saying "chosen by God" I'm lost for words. Hitler's Final solution was Diabolical. Settling in the ME is a hard ask.. Nev