Middle East conflict

[willedoo]

A commentator on the radio said tonight that Junior was wounded in the early raid and that's why he hasn't been seen in public. Not badly wounded I don't think. The Israelis have said he's on the list. Another legitimate target considering he's just taken over as supreme commander of a prescribed terroist organisation (IRGC).

[pmccarthy]

I read that junior was hit in the same attack that killed hid dad and family. Has been in a coma since. Doesn’t know he is the new ayatollah.

[willedoo]

I think the way things are at the moment, the powers that be in Iran would know the first two or three might get hit. It would make sense to stick a couple of fall guys in initially. Expendables, so to speak.

[nomadpete]

10 hours ago, red750 said:

What's the bet Netanyahu has his spies looking for a way to take him out too.

Trumpy said "Let's see how long he lasts".

[nomadpete]

The background gossip says that Trumpy has long wanted USA to take over Karg Island.

 

He first mentioned this many years ago.

 

So far that oil loading island has not been touched by USA or Israel. Control of that island would control most of china's imported oil supply. And incidentally might be worth billions of $.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:57 PM by nomadpete

[randomx]

Diesel 245 here now.

Yet the PM was on last night saying oh no no no we've got plenty of fuel and also reserves.

Well, in that case , why is it up 70c in my area in a wk then and when the war's hardly 2wks old ?

Tell you why the good old Aussie way see a chance to gouge and off they go exactly as predicted.

Daughter showed me a write up saying it could be 3bucks by next wk.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:24 AM by randomx

[kgwilson]

The price you pay is determined by supply & demand, nothing to do with the government. The Australian public has far too many panic merchants. I saw line ups the other day with people filling Jerry cans flat out. So the demand goes up & so does the price all based on fear and greed. Not only that fuel companies base their price largely on the cost of replacement in todays dollars not what they pay when the fuel you are using was paid for.

 

It takes from 2 weeks to over a month from leaving the crude export point to being refined into useable fuel and then transported to petrol stations. Australia being a long way from most of the supply points is at the end of the time frame, so at least a month.

[facthunter]

The Conservatives are deliberately exacerbating the situation for Cheap. Political advantage. Encouraging Panic Buying and causing the shortages and price hikes. Demand is UP but Usage isn't. Penalties are there to counteract the Undesired Hoarding and Profit gouging,  with individual short falls addressed with Targeted extra allocations Where  shortages are occurring. usually Remoter areas.  Nev

[red750]

I drove past a BP station on my way home at 4pm, where ULP91 was 219,9c/l. This is no more than the usual high point of the price cycle, though it may take longer to drop back to the low point of 169.9c/l. 

 

I still have 3/4 of a tank, as I didn't turn the key for 4 days.

[facthunter]

Iran's view is no oil will be allowed past going to anyone who has supported Israel or the USA. Long term it's up to the Big Players to resolve what they caused regardless of what the rights and wrongs are, the show must go on.  Collapse of the world's economies will affect everyone. Nev

[willedoo]

Hopefully they won't blink and will finish what they started. Getting rid of the regime is the only way to provide any hope of it not happening again. The've kicked the can down the road for years and deluded themselves that you can negotiate with terrroists. The regime has been taking the mickey out of the west for years. Putin uses similar tactics, dangle the hope of negotiations and a settlement in front of suckers to string them along so you can evenntually get your own way. There's still a lot of mugs calling for negotiations; I just don't know when they'll realise you can't talk to people like that.

[facthunter]

Americans will Dump Trump like a Hot rock if they think HE has involved them in another War far from Home. He's on thin ice and the Iranian Leaders are not fools, Their system is bult for survival. Trump Leads a very (Purposely) divided Country and he has surrounded himself with people who flatter him rather that tell him anything for fear of Inviting his wrath. Other  Christian Fundamentalists IN HIS ORGANISATION. Ted Hegseth  as a prime example, see Trump as the Hand of GOD bringing on the Last days of ARMAGEDDON.WTF???

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

No, Trump won't punish Iran for too much longer. Iran would be getting the hint not to fund or encourage idiot foreign terrorist groups. Albo has admitted Bondi was because of Iran. 

[facthunter]

Trump shoots his mouth off big time. It's his Crude style and HELPS nothing but his insatiable EGO. He's good at Lighting fires but not Putting them Out. He's utterly TIED to Netanyahu and certainly NOT the brightest Bulb in the Chandelier. Most of the World views Trump as a  very dangerous Idiot who is completely Unpredictable.  Nev

[randomx]

Nah wasn't saying the prices are the PM , just that he said we've got plenty for mths ahead. Ofc gov could do something about any of the gouging goes on here though. Rump won his election promising to get fuel prices down, house prices back to affordable, cost of living down.

Very convenient though they estimate the future price then to and start making us pay for it in advance. That'd mean when or if that price actually does come round we've already paid for it so it should go down not up. And you'll notice to when fuel is cheap all over the world they somehow don't seem to estimate that in advance and cutting our price in advance. Matter of fact they'll string out their old price mths and mths.

They gouge, ofc they do at any chance they get just like our super markets and lots of others that's why it's all over tv with new attempts every few mths at catching them out and fuel watches and all the rest of it and going off about the holiday gouging. They could justify those then to with demand but if that was really the case then it wouldn't be all over tv trying to stop it, well, talking about it anyway.

 

l mean not arguing, never bother myself people can believe what they like just sayin but me, we get snowed left and right have been decades in every direction. Eveen our Covid prices on all sorts of crap including fuel, it's been 3 or 4yrs really but nothings gone back down to where it should be even allowing for the 4yrs of inflation since.

l mean l suppose they could blame that on the Russia Ukr situation/fuel and all that but could've told whatever the case anyway we'd never see pre Covid prices again even allowing for inflation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:32 AM by randomx

[randomx]

26 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Most of the World views Trump as a  very dangerous Idiot who is completely Unpredictable.  Nev

 

 

That he is no doubt about it. You'd never believe the so called most powerful man in the world could end up being a brain farting fool like Rump.

 

 

[red750]

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/wwiii-fears-ignited-as-president-zelensky-issues-chilling-warning-over-iran/ss-AA1YpLxz?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=69b288f97a9e47198ab09c9d91ae72f0&ei=48#image=8

[onetrack]

Shipping costs and disruptions, both air and sea, are the hidden costs of this American bombing expedition. It's going to have a major impact worldwide. Not to mention the number of people curtailing their holidays because of airspace and airport closures.

 

A lot of people have forgotten that Russian airspace is already closed to all civilian aircraft, and that is impacting air freight and passenger movement and costs.

Doha, Dubai, and Bahrain are big transport hubs and are currently closed, so flights are being diverted all over the place. Oman is presently reasonably secure, but that could change.

 

Here's the latest news on air freight shipping. The news is not good for drugs and pharmaceuticals moving from India to Europe, they are forecasting major shortages in Europe, shortly.

 

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/air-cargo-shippers-scramble-to-mitigate-iran-war-impacts

 

I was a bit nervous as regards a new tractor crankshaft I'd ordered from Czechia, but ended up surprised at how the shipping cost was still reasonable, and the transit time was fast.

The crankshaft is made in Germany, but it was shipped from Tuchomerice, Czechia (from Vaclav Havel Prague airport) on the 10th March (Tuesday) - from there it went to Koeln in Germany, thence to Shenzhen in China, then on to Singapore early yesterday morning. It landed in Perth early this morning, and they say it will be delivered this afternoon.

 

Can't complain about that service! The crankshaft is big and heavy and weighs 47 kgs, and it cost me US$185 in freight cost, just under AU$260. I acquired the crankshaft for less than half the cost that local suppliers charge, including the airfreight cost. The total cost was AU$950.

[onetrack]

The cost to America of the Iranian War is rapidly escalating - and as always, American errors are high on the list. Two American KC-135 refuelling tankers have collided over Western Iraq.

One landed safely, but the other one crash-landed somewhere in Western Iraq - and the crash location is currently unknown.

If the Iranian forces get to the crash site first and grab American aviators as hostages, they will be dancing with glee.

 

There were 5 crew members on board, and the U.S. military is declaring the aircraft "a loss". On that basis, one has to presume all the crew bailed out, and left the stricken aircraft to its fate, and the crew members have likely landed in a diverse number of areas, and are trying to hide from the Iranians, while the U.S. rescue crews try to figure out if they can get to rescue them before the Iranian forces find them.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/12/us-military-aircraft-iraq-crash

 

Edited 5 hours ago by onetrack

[kgwilson]

According to the report it crashed in Western Iraq Iraq shares its Eastern border with Iran The Yanks will know its exact location from the flight log and GPS apart from other sophsiticated equipment on board. Iran would have to send its troops in to Iraq & there is no love lost between the 2 countries. They fought an 8 year long war starting in 1980 along their different religious beliefs. Most Iraqis are Sunni Moslems & Iran is Shia.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

On that basis, one has to presume all the crew bailed out,

Unfortunately the parachutes were removed from the KC-135s in 2008.

[randomx]

2 hours ago, onetrack said:

Can't complain about that service! The crankshaft is big and heavy and weighs 47 kgs, and it cost me US$185 in freight cost, just under AU$260. I acquired the crankshaft for less than half the cost that local suppliers charge, including the airfreight cost. The total cost was AU$950.

Shit eh, you gonna put it in yourself or ?

[randomx]

So what are peoples thoughts on how long this things going for ?

l've had the feeling it'll drag on and get a lot worse buttttt, who knows.

[pmccarthy]

49 minutes ago, willedoo said:

Unfortunately the parachutes were removed from the KC-135s in 2008.

I understand it was almost impossible to bail out anyway.

[willedoo]

If it's still under control, it's statistically safer to stay with it. If they've lost control, it's near impossible to get to the parachute to don it, let alone bail out safely. They replaced the harnesses with safety harnesses for all the crew members.