Middle East conflict

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

5 minutes ago, red750 said:

A Facebook member's reply to a report that Hegseth (Hogsbreath) refused to answer a BBC reporters question about who was responsible for destroying a girls school, killing over 100 schoolgirls.

 

"Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps base”. That's what was next to, or close to the school.

 

Why weren't the kids given the week off, given that missiles were whizzing around overhead?

 

[willedoo]

The IRGC base was 60 metres from the school.

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

Pete Hegseth torpedoed an UNARMED ship sailing home from a friendly naval exercise, killed 87 sailors, and left the rest floating in the Indian Ocean without lifting a finger to help.

Peter, this part of that report is very hard to believe. I can't imagine any navy sailing their frigates around the world unarmed., they would be a sitting duck. Who would risk a valuable asset like a frigate. 

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

I'm no law expert, so my guess might be totally wrong.

 

I thought that it has always been fair game to sink any enemy shipping, in a declared war. There have been many examples in the last, by all sides.

 

But, is this conflict a declared war?

 

Normal maritime law fobids sailing away from a shipwreck, without rendering assistance to survivors. Says a lot about the new Department of War.

Professor Donald Rothwell, who is a professor of International Law at the ANU College of Law, told ABC News the US did have a right to target the vessel under rules of engagement.

[willedoo]

It's probably a bit of an ask to expect a submarine to surface and render assistance. For a start they don't have the space and facilities that ships have. Another factor is that the basic brief of submarines is stealth. The navy rules possibly might forbid them from surfacing after an engagement like that. Here's a question - are submarines exempt from the rules regarding rendering assistance.

[facthunter]

The sub informed the Nearest country and that apparently covers the Maritime rules. I'm only the Messenger. Nev

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, nomadpete said:

But, is this conflict a declared war?

Good question, has Iran officially declared war? It's rarely ever done these days. Usually they just box on and call it whatever they like, armed conflict, special military operation, police action, or whatever.

[facthunter]

I think USA and Iran consider it such. America is in a "Get in first approach".  Putins "special Military Operation was 100%BS and should have fooled NO one. Nev

[rgmwa]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

I wonder if he factored in the cost of the jerrycans. He may not be saving much. 

[facthunter]

. He forgot the toilet Paper. It will be in short supply as well as most things, if trucks can't get Fuel. If he had a Prang, He'd have Burn problems as well. Prang is an old aviation term. Nev

[willedoo]

From a war perspective, it would have been a dumb thing not to sink the frigate and let it sail home to blockade the Strait of Hormuz at the least, or attack US forces. It's arguably Iran's best ship, or one of the best. Sinking it is in line with one of the stated goals, which is to destroy Iran's navy so it can't threaten shipping in the gulf. They still have a lot of small torpedo boats.

[willedoo]

2 minutes ago, facthunter said:

If he had a Prang, He'd have Burn problems as well. Prang is an old aviation term.

I didn't know that Nev, did the term start during the war or earlier?

[facthunter]

Probably the First World war. I wasn't born till the start of the second and I hope to never have a 3rd. Wars are MADNESS. Nev

[facthunter]

They've always Killed a lot of people when training till simulators came along. .. Give it a Burl  (meaning GO) is another. . Nev

[ClintonB]

There is a picture of sign at a harington servo today at $3.15 for diesel.

these should be the ones the accc goes after.

[Jerry_Atrick]

Hasn't the ACCC warned servos and oil companies not to price gouge? Heaard someone on the radio day they are pretty much a toothless tiger, though I do remember them forcing Qantas, I think to refund fares over some scam of some sort. 

 

Over here, the prices are fairly stable. at the moment, which is a surprise. They usually jack it up straight away, and when the oil and gasoil prices settle back to normal levels, it allsort of takes a very long time for the retail price to retract and then no where near what it was.

[onetrack]

The price per barrel of oil has gone up 12.5%. That equates to 21c a litre at the bowser. Anything more than that, is simple price gouging.

[red750]

The ridiculous thing was petrol going up and down like a  bride's nightie, from $1.59 to $2.29 per litre every few weeks, without a major war anywhere.

[old man emu]

5 hours ago, willedoo said:

I didn't know that Nev, did the term start during the war or earlier?

It appears that 'prang' is a relatively new word, created by the RAF. The date might be the mid-1930s, but its first documented use was in 1940/41. 

[rgmwa]

So it wasn't invented by Biggles then?

 

[onetrack]

Oh, jolly good show! Has Nev ever pranged a kite? Did he really know Pilot Officer Percy Prune? What about RAF and RAAF bumf? 😄 

 

Edited 14 hours ago by onetrack

[Jerry_Atrick]

Back to topic. This is an interesting report:

 

 

[randomx]

17 hours ago, facthunter said:

I think USA and Iran consider it such. America is in a "Get in first approach".  Putins "special Military Operation was 100%BS and should have fooled NO one. Nev

Frump tried following his love Pute in this earlier and called it some bs don't remember how he put it.

But l saw a clip of him yesterday actually calling it a war , full stop.

Me, l'd call it yet another Frump shyt show that hasn't even begun, just sadly more tragic than his usual but eh, he's still alive so what's he care .

[randomx]

12 hours ago, red750 said:

The ridiculous thing was petrol going up and down like a  bride's nightie, from $1.59 to $2.29 per litre every few weeks, without a major war anywhere.

It's just the Australian way, see a chance to gauge , go for it. Aussies will just take it on the chin pms will just go about their day and the gaugers line their pockets unscathed- so what's new right. Same with our super markets , gas, elec, costs of living, no one touches them and dumb old Aussies just soldier on, few gripes, that's ok super markets and all the rest are all use to that doesn't even phase em they know to well they laugh all the way to the bank behind closed doors and that's as bad as it'll get.

l can never believe some of the delusional reports we hear on even just fuel. Oh fuels gone up 30%, 50% , since Covid/Ukraine or whatever other rubbish. Bullshit, in my area diesel was around 1.10 and over night flew up to 2.25. Ahhh, that ain't 30 or 50 , it's 100%, doubled. And since it's come down to about now 60-70%, pends where you are. Still 1.85 up here in a lot of places.

Coles or Woollies still asking 16 and 20bucks for coffee that use to be 8 and 10, just to call one thing, it's right through anything they sell on and on but off they all just merrily go.

Edited 3 hours ago by randomx

[Marty_d]

Diesel was 1.10 where you are? It hasn't been much below 1.80 here for years.