Pauline and Muslims

[facthunter]

She's just a frowning CON Artist existing on the Payment for votes thing. Now that Gina is Funding her she's getting  way ahead of  herself especially since she went to More A Leggo and Met Trump who she worships without Shame. Nev

[red750]

[Marty_d]

Well, gingers don't get much nuttier.

[facthunter]

She might think that ginger Nuts come out of your ginger. Tell her where eggs come from . Wondering WHAT she thinks won't help your sanity. Imagine her going overseas and representing THIS country. People might think we are all like her.?  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

9 hours ago, facthunter said:

Don't pull ONE line out of context and make  a story of it nothing like what I said. IF you don't mind. It's not fair.  Nev

To clear things up, only the first line in my post:

11 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Ahh.. She wishes to be, for her cause..... a martyr.. .A bit like those that are the sibject of her cause. 

Was in response to the bit I quoted. It was intended to convey the irony of the the Pauline  pot calling kettle black type comment. In other words she is mimicking the martydom thing attributed to the subject of her attacks, albeit at a very differrent level (i.e. Pauline is not willing to die for it), 

 

Everything else was in a generic sense of the general discourse aroud  Islamophobia and not in reference to your post. Anbd it was basically to say, there seems to be an argument that defends the bad ideological bit on the basis that others doi it and have done it. My point is that is toxic and divisive, too, as it is pitting one against the other, and if one ideological group has done a little bit less worse than the other, than that is OK, apparently.. None of it is OK, so let's stop saying well, some dickhead from Australia killed 57 Muslims, so the Islamic ideologues who do this are excused, not bad, blah blah blah. They all are bad (ideologists of any type willing to comit atrocities, I am speaking about, not all Muslims... just to be clear). And none should be tolerated nor should there be a "Oh, some whitey did it.. so there" type attitude That was my point. 

 

FWIW, Pauline is a poor man's Nigel Farage.. Rotten to the core and contributes to rather than solves the problem; the difference being Pauline can't really present herself as anything other than that - Farage sadly, is a bit more adept at the PR. Also sadly, it appears, at least until it comes to putting pencil to paper at an election, an increasing number of Australians are following suit. 

 

p.s. I am trying to think of a metaphorical nickname for Pauline.. Maybe I will callher Handson.. as in Hands on it.. as she is a bit of a w@nker. 

Edited 39 minutes ago by Jerry_Atrick

[willedoo]

Getting the multinationals to pay their fair share of tax is one that would pass the pub test but doesn't cut the mustard in the real world. The two majors don't want to go there as they know a lot of much needed foreign investment would dry up. There's plenty of other countries willing to give them a cheap run for their money.

[Jerry_Atrick]

33 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

Well, gingers don't get much nuttier.

Up until HandsOn, I used ot have a thing for redheads and gingers..What was I thinking???!

[Jerry_Atrick]

1 hour ago, Litespeed said:

Forget the policies, she has consistently voted against her policies when her rich mates make a call.

 

Eg. Penalty rates, voted to abolish them 

 

Health funding for nurses wages-voted against.

 

Self interest is all she believes in.

To be fair, much like many politiciians, because once they get into poower, they realise things are a bit different. However, HandsOn does it better than most, I gues. 

 

I am sure it is not a ploy - at least conceived by HandsOn herself, anyway - that by focusing on these outrageous comments, it does hide scrutiny of a) PHON's policies and b) whether or not the "team" are capable of implementing them. For example, it is great to send inexperienced health professionals to rural areas, but like many professions, unique situatons can't be taught in a text book and require expereince over time (yes, health professionals have anbout a year of full time employment befire they graduate). So in theory, sounds good, but the reality is it could be very bad as they fail to find the most basicdiagnostic signs for some things and suddenly death rates increase. A friend was a junior doc left alone on a ward for a shift and got the doage of some drug mixed up that resulted in a patient dying. Of course, it may be better to have inexperienced health professionals that could prevent run of the mill issues getting out of hand as well.. so it could be a good policy, too; but by her being outrageous and the press focusing on that, there is no scrutiny or debate of her policies, nor questions of implementation (e.g. what happens is mental health of someone working in say, Finke, who has never been to the isolation of the Outback before, becomes depressed, etc.. what to do then; or will there be rotations; or how to assess the skill sets required for different areas). Or even other options, like brealking the AMA hold on quotas and allowing more people who make the academic cut for artifically deflated numbers of places on courses (but then, are there the facilities), and  opening up course numbers specifically for rural based students and subjecting them to the 3 year contract for a place they would normally not get, as well as wiping their fees..

 

I think if the press focused on her policies, it wouldn't take long for the whole party to be found wanting and discredited. 

[willedoo]

I doubt Pauline has much input into their policies they present to the public. I could be wrong, but I get the feeling she has overall viewpoints that are incorporated into policy developed by Malcolm and their advisors.