pmccarthy Posted yesterday at 05:19 AM Posted yesterday at 05:19 AM (edited) I have finally finished my book with the title Hidden Rivers of Gold which covers the origins of Deep Lead Mining, the technology and challenges, and the final years of mining in the Carisbrook-Moolort area of Victoria which led to huge financial losses and very little gold. Characters involved included the State Premier and a future president of the USA. This was all around the turn of the 20th Century. The book can be purchased through online booksellers including Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Fishpond, Booktopia and Angus and Robertson. Prices vary a lot, and some are in US$ so check carefully. The book is published by Echo Books. Edited yesterday at 05:21 AM by pmccarthy 2 2
facthunter Posted yesterday at 06:36 AM Posted yesterday at 06:36 AM I don't know IF there's Much GOLD in writing Books? .I would keep Digging at Today's Prices. Nev 1 1
onetrack Posted yesterday at 08:13 AM Posted yesterday at 08:13 AM (edited) I was part owner of the Fairplay Gold Mine at Higginsville, W.A. from 1972 to 1990, when the mine was sold to a large gold mining company. The brother, his wife and I mined and produced around 600 ozs of gold in that period, utilising the Norseman State Battery (a 10 head stamp mill, owned by the W.A. Govt). Gold was ignored and only worth around $35 oz when we purchased the mine from two old Slav prospectors. But U.S. President Richard Nixon had taken America off the Gold Standard in August 1971, in a staggering display of non-consultative, "executive" Presidential power. It was called the "Nixon shock", and it rattled the worlds financial markets - and led to a rapid rise in the price of gold, now the gold price was no longer controlled by the U.S. We knew this would happen, and purchased the gold mine accordingly. By 1975 the gold price was $160 oz and by 1980, it was over $800 oz, and there was another gold rush on. At that point, our strategy of utilising an under-utilised and cheap source of ore crushing went to hell in a handbasket, as scores of prospectors turned up at the State Battery to crush parcels of ore. A queueing system for crushing was initiated - but even worse - the Govt imposed a very sharp increase in crushing costs to reduce the State Batteries ever-increasing losses (the State Batteries were always subsidised to encourage local employment, bring in gold revenue, and to assist in prospecting work that might deliver new and profitable mines). At that point, we turned to the large (200,000 tonne) tailings dump on our mine, which still held an average of around 2 grams/tonne of tailings. We took on 3 business partners who had experience in heap leaching and cyanidation of tailings, and between all of us, we developed an improved design of tailings leach vats, which proved very effective and very profitable. The benefit of treating tailings was the ore was already crushed very fine, it just had to be set up with the correct pH levels, be able to contain a cyanide leach solution, and to have a simple circulatory pumping system. The addition of activated carbon in stainless steel tanks finished off the treatment process, and it was a very simple job to set up a small, single-cylinder Lister diesel pump to circulate the solution until the activated carbon was full of gold! Then the tanks would be taken into Kalgoorlie to be stripped of the gold, using a caustic solution, by professional carbon tank strippers. The final product, gold "dore" bars were taken into the Perth Mint, which refined the gold to the Internationally-accepted gold bar standard of 99.999 (%) fine gold. After we had re-treated all our gold tailings on the Fairplay lease, we re-treated many more tens of thousands of tonnes of tailings, from numerous other tailings dumps we had pegged. It was a very profitable period for us in the 1980's. Then, after we ran out of tailings dumps of our own to re-treat, we went on to build tailings vats on contract for other operators that needed to re-treat their tailings. We re-treated tailings and built leach vats for well over 2M tonnes of tailings in the 1980's, from as far East as Ejudina, 150kms E of Kalgoorlie, to Burtville, SE of Laverton, W.A. - right through the W.A. Goldfields, to even Marble Bar! It was a very interesting period, and one that was highly profitable, and not a period I'm likely to see again! The sheer pleasure of holding a large gold bar that you've produced and poured, is something that few people experience. Edited yesterday at 08:15 AM by onetrack 1 1
old man emu Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Wouldn't you like to still be in the game with gold at $5000/oz? What sort of ounce is that? 1
onetrack Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago A very expensive one, that's for sure. The fact that the price of gold has currently soared to exotic heights is pretty indicative of how low the value of our currencies has become, thanks to political mismanagement and squandering.
facthunter Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago People Turn to GOLD in times of great Uncertainty. Nev 1
old man emu Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, onetrack said: A very expensive one, that's for sure I meant Troy or avoirdupois. I couldn't see which scale of units was used. I never ate my carats. 1
onetrack Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I have never forgotten a quote from a book I read - where the author quoted John Maynard Keynes (the worlds leading economist in the early 20th century), who stated that "gold is a barbarous relic that has no place in a modern monetary system". The author went on to say, "Six leading global economists today, agree with Keynes opinion with regard to gold - they only have to convince six billion people in the world, that they are right, and the six billion people are wrong". 😄 1
onetrack Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, old man emu said: I meant Troy or avoirdupois. I couldn't see which scale of units was used. I never ate my carats. OME, the troy ounce system is used exclusively for precious metals. A standard pound of weight contains 16 avoirdupois ounces, a troy pound weight consists of only 12 troy ounces. Grams are the favoured gold measurement in Australia today, but gold bars are nearly always marked in troy ounces, and troy ounces is the standard for trading in precious metals. 1
old man emu Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I looked it up. The name is thought to derive from Troyes, France, a major trading hub in the Middle Ages, with usage dating back to Roman times. A Troy ounce is 31.1034768 grams. There are 12 Troy ounces in a Troy pound, or 373.24 gms. 373.24 grams is approximately 0.823 lbs or 13.17 oz (avoirdupois). . 1
pmccarthy Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago Back in the 1990s we set up a company and mined 55,000 tonnes at 1 oz/tonne. Gold price was $350-400/oz and we lost money. It was called Reef Mining at Tarnagulla in Victoria. 3
onetrack Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago It's not hard to lose money on gold mining pursuits - especially if hard rock and underground mining is involved. I've never been deeply involved in underground mining, but I've certainly seen a lot of mining companies come and go, and seen vast sums of money lost. I think I've seen figures that reported only around 30% of mines are profitable. When we were at Higginsville, the old Slav prospector who remained there - Mick Urlich - living in his old prospectors humpy, was a constant source of stories about the exploits of would-be miners in the area. Mick told me he came across a couple of blokes digging a big hole in pure white quartz, on the track between Higginsville and Eundynie, sometime in the 1930's. These blokes had a nice stockpile of broken quartz, which Mick looked at in puzzlement, as it contained no visible gold - nor any signs of the quartz even showing indications of being gold-bearing. It was just pure white, clean quartz. He went over to them and asked if they were onto anything of value. The two prospectors, very obviously greenhorns, stated that they were onto some good gold, as shown by the quartz! Mick went on - "But have you crushed or panned any of the quartz to see if there's actually any gold in it?" The prospectors looked a bit blank. "But it's quartz, it must have gold in it!", one stated. Mick replied, "No, just because it's quartz, doesn't mean it actually has gold in it! Quartz is a good indicator of gold-bearing lodes, but it usually has to have banded iron in it, or even visible gold, which is called specimen stone!" "You can have quartz that is totally barren of any gold, you have to crush a small sample and pan it off, to see if there's any gold in it! This stuff you're digging out here is just barren, pure white quartz!" At that, the pair of greenhorn prospectors developed downcast expressions. "But we got told, all we had to do, was find quartz, and we've found gold!" one replied, now looking in despair at their stockpile of barren quartz. Mick said it rapidly become obvious the pair had exactly zero knowledge of gold prospecting, and had not even studied up on the basics - but they were fully equipped, and full of enthusiasm, and possessed a gung-ho approach to gold prospecting, thinking that gold was everywhere, and you just had to dig a hole to be rewarded. He remarked how often, other prospectors were misled by "old-timers diggings" - with many modern prospectors stating with confidence, "the old timers dug holes and shafts and drives here, there must be gold here!" Mick said that if more of the modern prospectors had any idea of how little, a lot of the "old timers" knew about gold and prospecting, and had just dug holes in enthusiasm, with little gold prospecting knowledge, then those modern prospectors would be sorely disappointed with their confidence that the "old timers" actually knew what they were looking for! 2
facthunter Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago MY Mum used to say "a Fool and His Money are soon Parted." Nev
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