What has Trump done now?

[nomadpete]

11 minutes ago, old man emu said:

Why bother developing anthropomorphic weapons when we have seen how effective simpler machines like drones have been in carrying the battle?

 

Am I being over-cynical in thinking that by releasing a story such as the one above, the releasers are creating a diversion from what is really being developed?

I think the concern raised in the video is about the risks posed by combining 

anthropomorphic weaponry with effective simpler machines like drones.

 

Further, although they didn't mention it, there is the possibility that one deranged person could control them without worrying about disobeying 'illegal orders'.

 

Or A.I. deciding that humans ARE the problem.

[red750]

[facthunter]

 A Vain Mans Erection. Nev

[old man emu]

Pity the next non-Republican Administration. They will cop the bill for restoring the East Wing.

[facthunter]

Bet you It won't. It should, though AND all the Other Illegal and reckless damage He's done, as well. Nev

[red750]

Pity the Democrats, whether you like them or not.

 

They are going to be stuck with the cost of repairing all the damage the Republicans have done, as trying to restore sone semblance of respect for the country and the rest of the world. And there will be some expectation for them to contribute to rebuilding some of the infrastructure destroyed in Gaza and Iran by Trumps indiscriminate bombing.

[facthunter]

The USA people will pay for Trumps folies Big time  in the future. Not Just democrats who shouldn't have to at all by rights ,as they didn't Vote for  him. Nev

[red750]

Musk could probably pay the dollar bit from his pocket change, but doubt he could fix the international respect bit.

[rgmwa]

The problem the Democrats have is that they aren't organised and don't have an obvious plan for what they want, apart from getting rid of Trump's mob. They need to work out their version of a Project 2025 type manifesto that makes sense for the country and that they can sell to the public before the 2028 elections. I think Project 2025 was a disaster for democracy in the USA, but it unfortunately showed what can be done if you get organised.

[nomadpete]

50 minutes ago, rgmwa said:

They need to work out their version of a Project 2025 type manifesto that makes sense for the country and that they can sell to the public

Our politicians should take note of that

[Jerry_Atrick]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

Pity the Democrats, whether you like them or not.

 

They are going to be stuck with the cost of repairing all the damage the Republicans have done, as trying to restore sone semblance of respect for the country and the rest of the world. And there will be some expectation for them to contribute to rebuilding some of the infrastructure destroyed in Gaza and Iran by Trumps indiscriminate bombing.

Agree - Labour here are haivng exactly the same problem. What it takes for them to overcome it is not in their war chest. They don't have a strong, charismatic leader than can show the press up for what they are; and of course, social media is incredibly toxic as well, and it breeds. 

 

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

The USA people will pay for Trumps folies Big time  in the future. Not Just democrats who shouldn't have to at all by rights ,as they didn't Vote for  him. Nev

Well, of course. We all pay for our political leaders' follies regardless of who that political leader is. The bigger the folly, the bigger the price. You can argue Australians enjoy high cost of living, unaffordability of rental or owneed housing, reduced qualioty of public services than we could have had or successive pollies not kept up a lot of the folly imposed on us. 

 

But, if you look at history, generally, this is what happens (yes, there are plenty of times where it hasn't):L

• Conservative parties runt he country for a longer period of time, thanks to a not well earned reputation of being the safe pair of hands with the economy.
• They screw it up.
• Less conservative parties come in and fix it up - but it takes time
• They get booted out as they are not the safe pair of hands; it gets handed back tot he conservatives and they stuff it up again..

And the cycle continues. 

 

Remeber, Scott Morrison was ELECTED by the Australian population because they were scared Shrorten's changes, that would have benefited most Aussies, would crumble the economy. It wasn't until Morrison really stuiffed things up that Labor was handed back the reins. 

 

Despite my misgivings of Albo as a leader, given the cycle, he has done extraordinary well. He learned a very quick and sobering lesson with the Voice, but politically, and economically has been a steadier hand than expected. He is certainly better than anything on offer from the other side - which except for the very wealthiest, will even kill off small and medium sized business poste haste. You will get some very short term gain, but very loing term pain.

 

Over here, Labour is in exactly the same position. But, unlike Albo, they are hated. There are different circumstances. The conservatives here left an amazing black hole - over £40bn, in the end of undeclared but committed spending. These are the ones with the safe pair of hands, alledgedly. There really is little choice for Labour to do anything but raise taxes for a while. Their problkem is that they are politically inept. They only proffered up problems, but no clear path out of the ness. Most people will accept some pain for the probable gain to come out of it. All they pedalled was the pain. They were somewhat hamstrung by their manifesto of no new direct taxes and no increase in VAT. But they had a goden opportunity - £40billion of them - to say, hey, even the OBR has said there may be criminal charges to face because of what amounted to fraudulent national accounts, so we do have to - for a period - break our manifesto to put the country back on its feet (with the plan to do so).. Most people wouldn't have been happy, but they would have accepted it, especially if it more or less hit the target. 

 

But instead, they went down a similar path as Albo's pre-election approach - small target. As a government, you can't do that, as there is no message. And  if there is no message and massive increases to stealth taxes (as these aren't direct), and they decide to cut welfare for those who really needed it (something they rolled back on), they were (IMHO rightly) accused of not having a vision and just reacting. 

 

What it will take from the democrats is to overcome:

1 hour ago, rgmwa said:

The problem the Democrats have is that they aren't organised and don't have an obvious plan for what they want, apart from getting rid of Trump's mob. They need to work out their version of a Project 2025 type manifesto that makes sense for the country and that they can sell to the public before the 2028 elections. I think Project 2025 was a disaster for democracy in the USA, but it unfortunately showed what can be done if you get organised.

If you can offer a majority of people a plausible path to a better life, you will probably get the votes. Chump didn't so much as win the election, as the Democrats lost it. Albo learned that lesson early that he didn't win the election as much as Morrison lost it. Starmer and the Democrats don't seem to have learned that lesson yet. All three have small segments of the press that give them a fair shot, but the majority only able not to falsely or misleadingly criticise them in the face of abject evidence that criticism is not warranted. 

 

Sadly, democracy is the vast majority of people making the decision that do not have the time/inclination to dive into the details; the politicians have toi presnet it to them in easily digestible ways. 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[randomx]

Trouble is he's destroying the country and our housing and our people , oh, and we're over a trillion in debt.

 Worst and most stupidest thing about him though is not only the over 2million now immigrants he's brought in in a few yrs when we actually needed over a million houses, guess what , it gets better.

Next budget they reckon he's increasing immigration another 15%

But guess again , it gets even better. They reckon that by 2035 , if they were to stay in and keep this up, Actual Australians would be only 35% of the population.

 

Yep, he;s a gem alright.

 

ah yessa, just as little side detail, we've also had more than 25,000 small business go under in the last 2yrs, and that's only the ones they sorta, sorta, know of but that gets better too. We've also had over 7,000 builders go broke too, in the middle of the biggest housing crisis countries ever had.

lt even gets better if you wanna dig more.

Selling us out left and right, it goes on and on.

But eh, not getting involved, sad enough watching us go down the toilet as it is already.

  

 

Edited 14 hours ago by randomx

[Marty_d]

Did you not see the bit in the video - and these stats apply to Australia too - that immigrants are statistically more law abiding, more likely to start small businesses that employ locals, and do the jobs that the locals don't want to?

[facthunter]

You are ruining a good story with Facts. Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

1 hour ago, Marty_d said:

Did you not see the bit in the video - and these stats apply to Australia too - that immigrants are statistically more law abiding, more likely to start small businesses that employ locals, and do the jobs that the locals don't want to?

What do you mean by "locals"?

[Marty_d]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

What do you mean by "locals"?

Thought that was obvious. People born here.

[pmccarthy]

There are Australians and there are immigrants. Not the same. We hope the immigrants become Australians and in the past they did. But many of the recent ones, last 20-30 years, carry such huge prejudices that they want to remain what they were and to exploit the opportunity created by the Australians.

[old man emu]

13 hours ago, rgmwa said:

The problem the Democrats have is that they aren't organised

As yet they don't have a a candidate they can throw their weight behind. This video identifies two possible candidates and gives reasons for the favouring of one of them.

 

 

[rgmwa]

Mark Kelly seems to be generally well liked. At this stage it’s anyone’s guess who ends up running for the Democrats. My comment was more about what the Democrats are for. They are all united in their opposition to Trump and his regime but their vision for the country is less clear at this point. 

[randomx]

13 hours ago, Marty_d said:

Did you not see the bit in the video - and these stats apply to Australia too - that immigrants are statistically more law abiding, more likely to start small businesses that employ locals, and do the jobs that the locals don't want to?

 

 

Yeah , maybe , but have you not seen what's happening all over the world bc of the immigrant situation too.

lt's bloody bad.

They bring a lot of crap and crime and all kinds of bloody prejudices to mate, just confuse the hell out of a country no one has a damn clue who they are any more but you can't say shyt about it.

Most people here seem older and regional or wa or somewhere else and stuff, they don't see the Melb and Sydneys, they don't even know the real housing situation, or the huge change in populations in both.

And you say that but so what you don't giva damn about losing our real population.

l can't effg beleive some of the short sightedness on what's happening in this country.

And anything l've mentioned is only a tiny bit of it.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by randomx

[facthunter]

Getting rid of Trump is the essential action. I'm certain they would have NO trouble finding someone superior to trump in every way. Nev

[randomx]

3 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

There are Australians and there are immigrants. Not the same. We hope the immigrants become Australians and in the past they did. But many of the recent ones, last 20-30 years, carry such huge prejudices that they want to remain what they were and to exploit the opportunity created by the Australians.

Yep, exactly.

Hence for anyone that do live on the ea coast capitals actually see the crap going down day in day out and the huge changes last 20yrs.

Selling our country out and our people.

 

But alas. No matter what the view, even bothering with it in a forum achieves absolutely nothing. Just back and forth bullshit that's sadly all it does anyway so l steer clear of it mostly , head in sand, like the rest of the country.

Hoping l just wake up one day and these bastards are out and someone else is putting us back together again.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by randomx

[facthunter]

Isn't the topic "What has Trump done Now?". Nev

[randomx]

Haaa yeah l know but l was only replying to another post about the same stuff.

 

But eh, l'll say one thing about Chump.

At least he sees what's happened over there and wants it fixed.

ln that way, hate to say it but we need a bloody Aussie Trump. Hang on , what we really need is an Aussie Carney.

Justtttt in that way - before everyone jumps all over that.

Mind you, and yep , l know, l can't stand the bloke, Chump l mean and he's turning the whole world into a shytshow buttttt,l know just sayin though, he's idea on that other stuff , immigration and what it's done to their country to,  was spot bloody on.

 

Same Italy , Canada, both taking their bloody countries back now , trying to anyway and as they should.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by randomx

[facthunter]

With TRUMP it's ALL about him. Trump Will FIX Everything is 180 degrees wrong, Trump Will WRECK everything.  He tells lies. Thousands of them.  How does one deal with or TRUST a liar? Nev