What has Trump done now?

[Jerry_Atrick]

22 hours ago, nomadpete said:

When will our PM grow a pair, and pull out of the AUKUS deal?

When he realises it will cost him votes.

 

19 hours ago, facthunter said:

Better done quietly so we don't Lose our Money. Nev

Too late.. we have already spent $1.6bn under the bits that allow the US or Aus or the UK to kill the deal and we will not get refunded. He should have pulled out day 1 and negotiated a better deal.. For some reason that review when Albo took office was very uick and decided to continue. 

 

19 hours ago, facthunter said:

While trump is about you tread carefully. They are Likely to treat us like Cuba IF we misbehave. Nev

It would be a lot harder for them to mount that sort of raid in Aus.. And it would cost them a lot more than Cuba already has. 

 

[Marty_d]

1.6b would be worth it.

Staying in will result in orders of magnitude more loss and still nothing to show for it.

The USA is simply not a trustworthy military ally.

[Jerry_Atrick]

I didn't say we shouldn't write off the "investment" and stop throwing good money after bad. I was merely stating we are already in loss territory. 

 

I owuld like us to buy nuclear subs form the French. The size is more appropriate to our waters.

[Marty_d]

1 minute ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

I didn't say we shouldn't write off the "investment" and stop throwing good money after bad. I was merely stating we are already in loss territory. 

 

I owuld like us to buy nuclear subs form the French. The size is more appropriate to our waters.

We may have burned that bridge.

 

I'd like us to learn the lessons from Ukraine and give up on manned subs altogether.

Remotely operated seems far better in every respect.

[Jerry_Atrick]

That is true. 

 

But they would be French, and nuclear powered..

 

 

 

 

🙂

 

[old man emu]

His administration carried out human rights abuses, including mass killings, and collapsed the economy.

 

Copied from the Wikipedia entry for Idi Amin. I could not help but think that it applies to Trump.

[nomadpete]

2 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Too late.. we have already spent $1.6bn under the bits that allow the US or Aus or the UK to kill the deal and we will not get refunded.

True, we'll never see that money again. Whether we actually get the hoped for subs or not.

 

Further, I question the wisdom of continuing the massive money drain, purely in the hopes of getting some outdated weaponry sometime in the distant future. What new war toys might our military wish to buy in 2040 (or later, when you allow for expected late delivery) for all those taxpayer dollars?

 

Probably not those old-before-new subs.

 

And what manufacturing capability & quality can we expect from the New America? Their industrial abilities are not what they used to be.

[facthunter]

Make  TRUMP "OWN"  "Pulling the Plug " On the deal. Then you have the better bargaining position in the future. and world wide  exposure of a  poor show. Breast Beating is for SHOWMEN  ( idiots) like Scomo who Offsided France and China.  Never forget what the USA did to New Zealand when they wouldn't allow US Nuclear subs to Berth there, because they were anti Nuclear  policy no matter who you were.. Just Bullies. Nev

[facthunter]

Trumps "AMERICA" is dysfunctional and can be trusted by NO ONE. That's where we are at. Nev

[Litespeed]

Let's not forget the French bombed the Rainbow Warrior.

 

But that's the past...

[facthunter]

Doesn't Matter. It was a rotten deal and it killed one person. I spent time in France a bit after that and told them to Let Their BOMBE ATOMIQUE off in their own backyard IF it's so SAFE. Nev

[nomadpete]

A economic analysis from Telegraph UK:-

 

'Is America entering a hair-raising financial adventure? If so, the margin for misjudgment is zero

All the levers of economic stimulus in America are pushed to the maximum, setting the conditions for torrid overheating and an unstable boom by the end of the year.
Bank deregulation, credit expansion, a weaker dollar, lower interest rates, stealth quantitative easing (QE) and neo-socialist affordability gimmicks are combining to stretch the economic cycle and deliver roaring growth in time for the mid-term elections in November.
This is either a courageous experiment in “running the economy hot” or an insane mix of the worst policies from the 1970s, depending on your ideological colouring.'

 

Paywalled, but this is the link:-

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/02/06/the-trump-boom-is-a-high-stakes-economic-experiment/

 

I am trying to understand how these economics interact. But my take on it is that against all that is fair in the world, El trumpo is about to luck it in at the mid terms. And come out smelling like roses. Jerry, what do you see?

[facthunter]

Who says He is going to luck it in the Mid terms? Nev

[nomadpete]

4 hours ago, facthunter said:

Who says He is going to luck it in the Mid terms? Nev

For one thing, if He actually sends every USAnian a cheque for $2000 (as promised), a lot of voters might think he is doing a great job. They might momentarily overlook the price of eggs or petrol. 

[facthunter]

I haven't heard of THAT one. Then they would have the BEST Voters Money can Buy. That would look a bit OBVIOUS and raise a few questions.  What about the Inflation effect? Nev

[red750]

Source:   WION

 

ICE is offering up to $50K signing bonuses as well as loan forgiveness in an effort to hire 10,000 more officers. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem exhorted applicants, saying that their skills, experience, and courage have never been more essential, and they will help defend the homeland.

 

In a bid to ramp up hiring, the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, is offering signing bonuses of up to $50,000 (£37,700) and student loan help to “brave and heroic” Americans keen to help the Trump administration’s deportation drive. The agency is aiming to recruit deportation officers, along with attorneys, criminal investigators, student visa adjudicators, and other roles. ICE plans to add 10,000 personnel, doubling the agency’s headcount as it ramps up deportations across the country.

 

ICE has launched a recruitment campaign as the government plans a major expansion of immigration enforcement after a recent infusion of money from Congress and is promising up to $50,000 in signing bonuses.

 

The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement campaign recalls recruiting posters from World War II with images of Uncle Sam and the words “AMERICA NEEDS YOU.” There also are photos of Trump and top homeland security officials with the words “DEFEND THE HOMELAND” across the images.

 

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in a release, “Your country is calling you to serve at ICE. This is a defining moment in our nation’s history. Your skills, your experience, and your courage have never been more essential. Together, we must defend the homeland.”

 

The funding for the recruitment drive comes from approximately $165 billion allocated for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in Donald Trump’s sweeping tax and spending bill.

 

In addition to the signing bonus and student loan repayment and forgiveness of up to $60,000, ICE is promising hefty overtime pay for deportation officers and “enhanced retirement benefits”.

 

 

Deportation officers are tasked with helping apprehend and process undocumented migrants for removal from the US and get salaries between $49,739 and $89,528 per year, depending on experience and education.

 

ICE currently has 20,000 officers and support personnel at 400 offices across the country.

 

 

[facthunter]

THEY will Probably have to Flee the USA when this is Over. Nev

[Marty_d]

Some anti fascist people are already working to identify and make public the identity of ICE officers, especially those proven to have used excessive force.

It's exactly like the nazi brown shirts. You shouldn't expect to remain anonymous while following unlawful and inhumane orders.

[nomadpete]

7 hours ago, Marty_d said:

You shouldn't expect to remain anonymous while following unlawful and inhumane orders.

Isn't that the very reason that ICE agents hide their faces behind masks?