facthunter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Not you best post Don. That was a very below the belt thing from Can Do He has claimed to have made changes that predated his VLAD laws and therefore did not exist to be fixed by them.. Those laws Bother many better legal minds than mine will ever be. The "name" has probably been anglicised and have several ways of pronouncing it. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Don't think this is going to do our country any good at all in the longer term. It is like the difference between hazard reduction and fire fighting, our current governments at all levels already have trouble seeing past the next ballot, but they all budget spending to four or five or ten years out. Those are promises they only have to keep if they get re-elected for a second or third term, and don't get called to account for them if they get chucked out, meanwhile Joe punter is too short in memory to remember what they promised six years ago anyway. I agree, it makes it hard to plan long term budgets and spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Governments of all persuasions need to realise that just because you are elected with a large majority, it does not mean that you have a 'mandate' to make any change that you please, you still need to listen to the voters. This has been the downfall of Gillard/Rudd , Campbell Newman and most likely the Federal coalition if they don't wake up soon. If a conservative Government gets voted out after one term in the most conservative State in Australia, then they really need to take a look at where their priorities lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I will be watching with interest this could be a real hoot, I wonder if Anna??? actually thought she might win? and how long it will take for her to match Captain Bligh's debt effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Depends on what figures you use. Abbot keeps using a projection based on anything that makes his case. If you want to know the truth listen to what they say about the financial situation here when they are overseas. Usually the dead opposite of what you are given here. in the media. Is it the truth or did you read it in the Murdoch press? Often said. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhysmcc Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I doubt Anna will be around in 3 years time, she was selected by only 6 members, now there is at least 43 she'll need support from to keep the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Governments of all persuasions need to realise that just because you are elected with a large majority, it does not mean that you have a 'mandate' to make any change that you please, you still need to listen to the voters. Sadly for Queensland with the demise of their state upper house they may be at the whim of a government that didn't believe they had any chance of victory, so went to the election with the proportional lack of policy. Queensland has voted against Campbell Newman, and they have voted against asset leases BUT they have no clue what they have voted for. Only time will inform them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The only thing you can rely on is what ever the ALP does the hard nose supporters will justify it and claim Murdock made it up, . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 CN seriously misjudged the intelligence of the average voter. Actually I would go so far as to say he treated them with contempt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I have noticed that their strong hold seats are the classic " dole bludger , single mother with multiple kids from multiple father seats. The leaders seat is Inala, say no more. I do say though, be responsible and keep the debt in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Only based on my observations but I couldn't disagree more, out of my social group my friends in the 20's nearly all are on the conservative side, friends in the 30's-40's much more split. My thoughts behind it being the different stages of life, pepole in their late 20's mostly don't care about hospital funding, schooling (assuming that they have already studied) and other similar stuff, they care about the economy, getting a better job and a better start in life. And conservative ideas were pretty popular when ALP governments got thrown out all across the country only a few years back. I still believe the issues at the moment is that they are all rubbish. My vote will always be able to be brought for the price of a department/ minister of aviation! what the libs believe and what they do are rarely aligned in any fashion. that's why they suck in government. Imagine all the social issues associated with paying women $5000 to have babies, what a horrible social experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 what the libs believe and what they do are rarely aligned in any fashion. that's why they suck in government. Imagine all the social issues associated with paying women $5000 to have babies, what a horrible social experiment. Even though we dont see eye to eye, I do love you FT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I love you too mate, I'll share with you this very special image of Campbell packing up his office. Just to help you visualize what has happened. Its over, its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 He had a massive majority. He did it his way and the people didn't like it No excuses,No wars no one loses their lives They can lick their wounds and reform their policies and LEARN. I actually doubt that the LNP will. Anyone who is a clever capitalistically inclined entrepreneur type would be out there making money instead of in there trying to make money for their mates and getting rewarded later. WE don't seem to be getting the brightest on the block on that side. Parliament would be too boring and tedious for many. Just pass the paper bags along and get on with it like in the old days. Why ruin a good thing Tony Fitzgerald.? Do gooder. Who needs THEM in QLD.? When you sell or lease public assets (to your mates) you have to sell them cheap or allow more profits to be made after(Price increase) which is more cost to the people. Wouldn't happen otherwise .Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 So now the assets are going to be rented to the other mobs mates instead. Leased/Rented, I am still having trouble seeing the difference but the Queensland electorate have it all sorted apparently. As far as I can see it the lease option may have made all the money immediately available to splash, with the rent option the proceeds will only dribble in, but I can't believe that the renter is going to be happy to pay more than they profit from use of the asset so open your eyes Queensland, you are still going to pay more now there is going to be an extra player in the power delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Actually I would go so far as to say he treated them with contempt! I did not feel he treated me with contempt did you? Maybe the bikie criminals and the dead wood in the public service felt badly treated but I really did not have a problem with that. CN was trying to fix a mess left by the ALP now we can expect that situation to get worse. People need to realise debt is very bad, once you get past the point of no return it is almost impossible to recover, just check what is happening in Greece and much of Europe. Seven years after the GFC the world has not recovered from that and Australia is still going down hill. The general public need to wake up right now we are headed for a very bad place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 the LNP increased debt in the 3 years they where in power. That's why they got voted out. [ATTACH]47538._xfImport[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Regardless of whichever party you favor, anyone with even the hint of a business brain, knows clearly that you can't operate efficiently or progress with an empty purse. Same with governments. Any bloody fool can stand on a street corner and give money away to buy votes, there'll always be plenty of takers, even if they're not desperate for it. It's harder to get it back after it's all been squandered, and then the whinging starts. You can normally expect to reap what you sow, whether it is with seeds, or with money. No seeds, no crop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 selling the farm is bad business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 Newman pork barrelled his electorate to a figure well above the TOTAL of ALL the surrounding electorates . Good money management? The people have said "Good Riddance". Can Do underestimated the brain power of the Queensland people. especially in HIS own electorate. No one died .There were NO riots. They VOTED...Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmick Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 In my opinion the best we can hope for is 43 seats to ALP requiring 2 votes for decision (come in KAP), if 44 seats then only need to sway IND Wellington for decisions. If 45 or more than ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 selling the farm is bad business How else do you fix the problem? I would rather sell the farm than have starvation and rampant suicide, not that it will any difference now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 teck, you are a big boy, go to the library and read up how to run a government. in other news the long anticipated demerger of the LNP could be starting as early as tomorrow. Seeney called a meeting to pick new leader and Simpson says he has no authority to call meeting meaning that the new leader would be illegitimate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 teck, you are a big boy, go to the library and read up how to run a government. in other news the long anticipated demerger of the LNP could be starting as early as tomorrow. Seeney called a meeting to pick new leader and Simpson says he has no authority to call meeting meaning that the new leader would be illegitimate! That's enough crap for one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 and for a moment there was hope [ATTACH]47539._xfImport[/ATTACH] computer glitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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