Isis brides

[red750]

Everyone is jumping up and down about the ISIS brides who want to return to Australia, and how they might be a threat to our security. Yes, there is a risk of that, but has anyone considered the other side?

 

How many are there voluntarily? The Muslim religion has absolutely NO respect for women, and treat them as possessions of the males. The family (males) choose who they marry - girls as young as 9 or 10 get married off to the man chosen by the family. They do as they are told...or else! They must be covered from head to foot, including their face, lest they arouse the lust of males. They go where and when they are told. How many of them chose to travel to the Muslim countries with their "husbands", or were forced to?

 

They have seen how bad things are over there and want better for their children, and want to bring them back to Australia. But everyone wants to throw up barricades to keep them out. Surely temporary visas would allow them to come back to be assessed, and thrown out if they don't conform to our requirements.

[facthunter]

IF they get here they will be subject to the due Processes of the Law.   Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

You mentioned "ISIS" and "Australia" in the same sentence! Were you aware that you did that?

 

No one seems to have full control of their faculties when they think/talk about "ISIS brides".

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

Surely temporary visas would allow them to come back to be assessed, and thrown out if they don't conform to our requirements.

"thrown out"? Show me a Labor Govt that would deport them.

[red750]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

You mentioned "ISIS" and "Australia" in the same sentence! Were you aware that you did that?

 

What's your point?

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Why should Australia be associated with ISIS in any way whatsoever?

[old man emu]

A concern that I have does not involve future  terrorist activities of the wives, but the attitudes of their children. Those kids have grown up an an certain environment. They have been indoctrinated by the controllers of that environment. Just consider the outlook of German kids who grew up under the NAZI regime. At the end of WWII, when the world hey grew up in came to an end, they lost all that they knew. They had to undergo education to let them learn that what they believed in, one could say their morality was not the truth. I wonder how many of them were mever able to fully change their ideas. The same can be said for all children, no matter what ideological system they grew up in. Isn't the Aussie Spirit we try to instill in our children just another ideological system?

 

I say, let those adults amongst them who were Australian citizens, return. However, let us give the children of those people all the help we can to detoxify from what they have been lead to believe was acceptable. 

[facthunter]

(Common? Decency)? Humanity.. It's nothing to do with Helping ISIS. Nev

[facthunter]

People are being subject to Propaganda a constantly everywhere.. Look at the Non ISIS Hate here and in the USA. WE have obligation under Law .   It's a bit of a No Win for us but I'm sure it can be handled. IF they get Here and really, where else should/could they go? A lot of them are Just Kids.. We have Bigger Problem than this to worry about. Nev 

[rgmwa]

I agree with Nev. It's not ideal and there is a potential risk but if they are Australian citizens and legally entitled to live here, then the Government has a responsibility towards getting them out of the refugee camps and facilitating their return. The rest is a rehabilitation and risk management exercise.

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Imam Albo and Tony Burqa said the Govt is not going to help them.

[Marty_d]

GON, under what law would any government "throw out" Australian citizens born in Australia?

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Ask Red

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Millions spent on ISIS brides for monitoring

 

Public safety means nothing to this Labor Govt. I've never thought it ever did anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 07:24 AM by Grumpy Old Nasho

[facthunter]

Anyone can Put $#!T on You Tube Mate. Trust you to Pick the Best of it.  The day I need or HEED, Pauline Hansons advice will Never come. 3 generations of Pure Racism AND Hate. Pass thanks It's obvious WHO she is working for. People will work her out, eventually. The truth will OUT but it's getting More hard than ever to find due to the total failure of the mainstream Media to do it's job. Nev

Edited yesterday at 09:46 AM by facthunter

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Still a lot of money monitoring associates of a terrorist organization, who are supposed to be just Australian citizens. They'll be getting Govt social handouts too, when Imam Albo and Tony Burqa said the Govt won't help them with their repatriation.

 

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Grumpy Old Nasho

[facthunter]

They are NOT being given any free passes. Some have been charged already by the AFP. We accept our Legal International Obligations as any DECENT Country should. They got here Under their Own steam. That's the repatriation Bit. Why don't YOU provide a few FACTs?  Because it would spoil your story?  You HATE this Place or else you are Just Playing silly Mind games. Get on with the rest of your life. Plenty of People in this World are far more hard done by than you are.. This site is Mainly for Aviators.   Interested??   Nev

[nomadpete]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

This site is Mainly for Aviators. 

Settle down, Nev.

That's discriminatory.

Yes, the parent site is all about flying. But this is the Off Topic corner.

 

Play the topic, not the man.

[Marty_d]

Nev's right though.

For all their absolute stupidity for going off to join the caliphate, and the abhorrent isis, they remain Australian citizens with Australian passports.

Any crimes they have committed over there, which are offences under Australian law or international laws that Australia is signatory to, will be charged.

The children of course are innocent and should be given the same opportunity to grow up in Australia as any of us.

To suggest we should somehow prevent Australian citizens from returning home is just wrong.

[facthunter]

Nomad I did say Mainly for Aviators. STOP judging what you think I'm saying. You are Playing a role no one gave you the right to do.  It's Harassment and  Please desist. Nev 

[gareth lacey]

these children were all born in Syria NOT in Australia ergo yhey are Syrians , let them all stay there with thier Traitor mothers 

 

[red750]

The mothers may have been under the same duress as the Iranian Women's Soccer Team who wanted asylum in Australia, with threats to their family in Iran. They may have had no say in who they married, the Muslim religion treats women worse than dogs. 9 year old girls are forced to marry. The mothers did not want that sort of treatment for their children. Bringing them here gives the kids a chance to grow up as caring compassionate human beings.

[old man emu]

Som of the kids might have been born in Syria, but some of them were Australian born and taken there as young 'uns. I'm concrened about how ISIS indoctrination might have done to those kids.

[onetrack]

Agree. The kids will need to be re-educated into civil behaviour, in a big way.

Most of them have been taught nothing but hatred and cruelty as normality, and they all would have been taught how to shoot and kill. 

[facthunter]

 Most People who've experienced such circumstances hate war and seek something better.. Nev