Labor wins S.A. election

[willedoo]

Current AEC primary vote percentages statewide for the lower house, four leading parties, are  Labor 37.6%, One Nation 22.5%. Liberal 19.4%, Greens 10.0%.

Upper house percentages are Labor 36.9%, One Nation 24.3%, Liberal 17.6%, Greens 10.3%. Fairly consistent across both houses.

Edited Tuesday at 02:05 AM by willedoo

[Jerry_Atrick]

Polls didn't seem too far off. It is an ominous sign for politics. Australia needs a centre right party now - oh wait, that is the ALP at the moment.. Maybe Australia needs a centre left party now. 

 

In the UK, Labour is deemed far enough right that the Greens under the charismatic (to young people) Zak Polanski are courting the unions to switch funding from Labour to the Greens.. and apparently behind closed doors some unions are seriously entertaining the idea. 

[willedoo]

1 hour ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Australia needs a centre right party now - oh wait, that is the ALP at the moment.. Maybe Australia needs a centre left party now. 

Depends on your viewpoint. From where I see it, the ALP is already spanning centre left to centre right. They can't go any further left without bumping into the Greens, but they've broadened a bit to take up some slack left by the Liberals. Liberal and ALP always did overlap somewhat.

 

Regarding the opinion polls, the SA election showed them to be fairly accurate this time.

[willedoo]

There's only one seat left not officially called, the seat of Narungga which is a very close result between the Liberals and One Nation, formerely held by an independent. Preferences have been distributed and One Nation has won the seat by 77 votes, so the AEC is doing a recount today due to the closeness of the result. 

Edited Thursday at 03:34 AM by willedoo

[willedoo]

One Nation won the recount today on the last undecided lower house seat. The narrow win by less than sixty votes over the Liberal candidate brings their election seat tally to seven; four lower house seats and three upper house seats.

[willedoo]

The Liberal Party ended up with five lower house seats so they will retain their opposition status.

[Marty_d]

What a sad result.  Hopefully they implode sooner rather than later.

[willedoo]

Time will tell. The Victorian election later in the year will be the test of how lasting the swing is. If they do well there it will get the peanut gallery well and truly hyperventilating.

[Jerry_Atrick]

3 hours ago, Marty_d said:

What a sad result.  Hopefully they implode sooner rather than later.

Is that ON, Libs, or both? Although, arguably Libs have imploded. 

 

 

Libs are the official oppo by one seat; there are seats held by the other opposition than the opposition..

 

Farq.. I think Malinauskas is doing a pretty good jobm as does many SA people, I guess. But there is a real danger that hubris through a perceived untouchability may seep in. 

 

Australia as a whole needs a decent opposition.

[Marty_d]

Now that I agree with whole heartedly.  A strong opposition is essential to keep the government performing.

However the LNP has lost their way and forgotten that if they ever want to be in government again, they need to recapture the centre, not the lunatic fringe.

But yes ON are who I'm hoping will implode quickly. Given the quality of their candidates, it shouldn't be long.

 

[old man emu]

Is it possible that the Libs have lost their following because of the nay-saying of teh likes of Abbott, Morrison and Dutton? These blokes spent too much time just saying No to anything Labor proposed, and too much time attacking personalities. Although I wouldn't vote for them, I really think that with their experience in politics they could rise phoenix-like from the ashes if they developed a well considered platform that reined in corporate tax avoidance and concession so that the wealth of the Nation could be applied for the betterment of all.

 

It seems that our economic and social situation is the result of previous governments selling out to foreign interests. We have become a nation of warehousemen. We have "golden soil and wealth for toil" but no one seems to wwant to toil. I must saya word of defence for all governments. It is hard to meet the standards of social and industrial benefits of other countries when the population is minute compared to the size of the country. 

[facthunter]

The current opposition are Behaving as a spoiler & Nothing else in the Federal government. They will go further and further down the tube that way. They can't see that Because they are Panicked and Don't have a Lot of talent to pick from. They have to FIND themselves before they will go anywhere. It's a hard ask. The NP haven't helped much,.Nev

[facthunter]

The system does need a good Opposition not one who sabotages and says "NO", just Because".  Nev. 

[Siso]

19 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

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Farq.. I think Malinauskas is doing a pretty good jobm as does many SA people, I guess. But there is a real danger that hubris through a perceived untouchability may seep in. 

 

Australia as a whole needs a decent opposition.

He is if you live in the city and like you like sport sports. He seems to have the gift of the gab. Still no word on how much the failed h2 plant cost. I suppose thats what you get when you are in a safer non labour seat. Use to be safe non labour, but not so sure now.)

[Jerry_Atrick]

I get that his government won't please everyone and of course, like alol governments, there will be failures. But, at least as far as the news that comes out of SA is concerned, he and his government seem to be working out for more than less of the population, so, on balance, I would suggest, compated to others, he is doign a good job,

 

Is this the plant you're referring to: https://www.indailysa.com.au/news/just-in/2025/10/15/cost-to-taxpayers-revealed-over-failed-hydrogen-plan

 

In comparison, the withdrawl from hosting the 2026 Commonwealth Games cost Victoria close to $600M.. more than twice the cost of the failed h2 palnt as of the above report: https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/victoria-govt-exaggerated-commonwealth-costs-on-withdrawal-says-auditor

 

 

[facthunter]

Those games are Difficult to get a sponsor for and are More or Less Moribund. It was a Good idea to get out of them. Nev

[Siso]

Nice, still would have been nice to get an answer from the politicians if you make the effort to contact them.

[facthunter]

The Minister responsible is the Best one to ask.  I would  NOT respond to a question out of the Blue from an Unknown enquirer who you would not have a clue what they were asking  for and in what context. I've Had people who I would only Make a statement  to IF they agreed to NOT fiddle with it. Most questions I have Asked of Pollies did not Provide a satisfactory answer but I have a few I regularly discuss things with.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

9 hours ago, facthunter said:

Those games are Difficult to get a sponsor for and are More or Less Moribund. It was a Good idea to get out of them. Nev

I am not saying pulling out was the wrong thing. The decision to buy in as a knight in shining armour to the games that were about to be abandoned was a bad decision that almost everyone saw at the time (i.e. no hindsight). At least the SA govenment were trying to make something that hopefully likely had a shot at working for the sustained betterment of the community (disclaimer - I don't know too much about the background of that particualr H2 plant, so it oculs well have been a con job).

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[facthunter]

No one else was offering to run the Commonwealth Games so they thought they Could take it on and benefit the Community at the same time but later changed their opinions about how useful the structures would be after the Games. What the hell is SO wrong with that?   They weren't building seaside weekenders for themselves. You are good at  suggesting corruption when you live as far away as is Possible from here. Where do you get such detailed info from?  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Did I hit a nerve?  Where on earth did  I mention corruption about the dropped Commonewealth Games? Again, putting words onto my keyboard, FFS. 

 

Why wasn't anyone else taking on the games - Andrews chose it when it was well on its way to not happening? Because there was sod all interest in them and no one was getting a sponsor. Was the intention of doing the communty good a noble one? Yes, but that alone does not make it a good decision. Imagine how much better for the community that money would have been spent. 

 

Not corruption - but incompetence - from a government I have also defended.. But hubris did sort of set in on that one. 

 

What - because I don't live in Australia, I can't opine on things in Australia? Hmmm. As an Aussie born, Aussie citizen who still pays tax in Australia - I can bleedin' well opine. As I recall it is a free world that we live in, right? 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Jerry_Atrick

[willedoo]

Jerry, you dared critisise a Labor government. Go and wash your mouth out.

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

Well, a Labor govt just charged me $400 rego for my little sedan. And greenslip cost another $400.

 

$800 for nothing in return. Roads are still terrible, so what are they doing with the road tax?

 

And with only few ks on the clock per month, why such a high cost for a greenslip? There's no other traffic. Talk about a total rip off. One day they'll cop it.

[willedoo]

13 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

And greenslip cost another $400.

Grumpy, what's a greenslip?

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

NSW CTP insurance. You know, that one where you never get any of it back even if you never make a claim.