Middle East conflict

[Marty_d]

29 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

 

 

 

Have the courage to handle it in an intelligent way.

Joining a site like this is like joining any other group of people that have known each other a while. You've got existing cliques, well known stances on various issues, a bit of background on most people, and the occasional mad uncle (you know who you are).

The point is, you show a bit of restraint and respect until you're established and part of the group.

After 2 days, starting a post with "You're full of it." And ending with "...keep running off at the mouth with a half assed understanding" shows neither respect not restraint.

[willedoo]

I can also understand it from his point of view. Googling can at times bring up posts from this forum at the top of the list, and anti-Americanism on this forum is heavy to say the least. I'm surprised more Americans haven't come on here to put their point of view. It wouldn't be easy for them to bite their bottom lip and resist giving a spray.

[facthunter]

Elect a Better Person and they won't have to cop deserved Criticism. Don't expect us to sit back and just Meekly TAKE  anything HE dishes out IF you don't obey his every whim. We are/were supposed to be Allies and Friends. Plenty of Americans are turning against TRUMP. Nev

[Litespeed]

It's not the first time and certainly won't be the last, that insults are thrown at the messenger.

 

I am not upset, it displays the intellect of the responder.

 

In this case, he gave me a piece of his mind, sadly I can't accept, it appears he needs what little he has.

 

 

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

Elect a Better Person and they won't have to cop deserved Criticism.

 

Two candidates put themselves up for election and one of them received more votes than the other.

[Litespeed]

19 minutes ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

 

Two candidates put themselves up for election and one of them received more votes than the other.

By that logic, anyone who gets elected is beyond criticism.

 

Trump is the antithesis of a democratic leader and distorts the Constitution, law and even truth.

He is a dictator at heart and egotistical sociopath.

 

Just because he managed to get elected, he is actively trying to destroy society.

 

 

[Jerry_Atrick]

I don't think Down East is a troll and I welcome his perspective. His rebuke was based on fact. Yes, he went aggressive on it, but no one has so far disputed that fact. It is easy to blame the US for everything, but as I have mentioned on the What has Putin Done now feed, the Europeans also caved in.. 

 

The "insult", IMHO doesn't detract from his point, although I agree, we should purely play the ball and not the man. "That is complete crap".. would be better but remember, the US have different cultural norms and the term used, "you are full of it" is in context of what you have presented usually, and not a general aspersion (although, yes it cane be in certaincircumstances)- but that was predominiantly the west coast for me. East coast could be different.

 

And I am sure some will say I am full of it now 🙂

 

3 hours ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

 

Two candidates put themselves up for election and one of them received more votes than the other.

You forgt the role the fourth pillar of government - the press - plays. The press today is increasingly partisan and and misleading in their approach, and this is the primary method of informihng the public, who are increasingly time pressed just keeping their heads above water - exactly as the politbureau want it, I would suspect. so...

 

3 hours ago, Litespeed said:

By that logic, anyone who gets elected is beyond criticism.

 

Trump is the antithesis of a democratic leader and distorts the Constitution, law and even truth.

He is a dictator at heart and egotistical sociopath.

 

Just because he managed to get elected, he is actively trying to destroy society.

 

 

IMHO, is spot on and applies to others I can think of - ScoMo, BoJo, and even Putin when it was more ore less democratic in Russia for that very short window.