Is our 2 party system just a con?

[Marty_d]

2 hours ago, Brendan said:

you reckon labour are doing a good job. net zero is costing us a fortune and in the end it will be dropped because it is unviable. bowen is a clown.  

every day we here about another labour minister abusing allowancees.

labour in victoria have handed organised crime 15 billion or more using the big build as a front.

jacintas idea for more housing is to build towers all over melbourne because they will come under cmfeu control. they don't get involved in residential home builds so no promoting that.

daniel andrews left before he had to face the music but not before he amassed 90 million for himself.

there is so much more than that too.

andrews tripled workers comp policys overnight and that makes life hard for us employers .

i never used to be interested in politics at all but these criminal and corrupt politicians made me take notice. 

i actually voted for andrews when he first ran.  the other choice was napthine and his incompetent mates.

now albo the liar is breaking his ellection promises and bringing far too many immigrants with no regard to infastructure.  and labour believes criminals should all be set free with no consequences for thier actions.     one nation might have its faults but they will be better than what we have now.

 

Firstly you're conflating state and federal politics there. I'm not a Victorian so I know bugger all about your state government.

Not sure either how Labor's current immigration policy has anything to do with their election promises, I can't remember immigration being an issue at the last election.

And if you get rid of immigrants, who looks after aged care, fruit picking and all the other jobs people born here don't want? Plus, I know it's not a popular statistic for those on the far right, but immigrants are less likely to commit crimes and more entrepreneurial than people born here.

Not at all sure either why you think Labor is soft on crime.

In terms of PHONey doing a better job than the current government, I hope you're joking. They would be absolutely hopeless, a failed experiment like the Trump one in the USA.

[willedoo]

In case anyone is wondering why I clicked the informative button on Brendan's post - I saw the post and he had a string of icons there starting to resemble a poker machine. There was left to right, 1 Like, 1 Haha, 1 Winner and 1 Sad. So I thought why not give him a crack at getting the full jackpot - one of every type, the full string. So come on blokes, don't be mean, all it needs now is 1 Confused, 1 Thanks and 1 Agree. I'm not sure if anyone's ever hit the jackpot on this forum before.

[willedoo]

One Nation seems to be getting a lot of free publicity, some good some bad depending on the media outlets, but the media is certainly giving them some oxygen. It took a shark attack in Sydney to finally bump ON off the top of Google's news feed. It's been saturation level lately.

[Brendan]

1 hour ago, Marty_d said:

Firstly you're conflating state and federal politics there. I'm not a Victorian so I know bugger all about your state government.

Not sure either how Labor's current immigration policy has anything to do with their election promises, I can't remember immigration being an issue at the last election.

And if you get rid of immigrants, who looks after aged care, fruit picking and all the other jobs people born here don't want? Plus, I know it's not a popular statistic for those on the far right, but immigrants are less likely to commit crimes and more entrepreneurial than people born here.

Not at all sure either why you think Labor is soft on crime.

In terms of PHONey doing a better job than the current government, I hope you're joking. They would be absolutely hopeless, a failed experiment like the Trump one in the USA.

typical left response. no one has ever said stop immigration.  one nation want it brought back to 130,000 per year to allow infrastructure and housing to catch up. you live under a rock in tassie by the sound of it.  i never said a thing about immigration at the last election. i talk about the allan and albonese governments as one because they basically are. you think labour isn't soft on crime.  go and do some research because you have no idea.   do you think they are white australians doing all the home invasions in melbourne and the  machete attacks.

victoria has more cars stolen per day than every other state combined because of labours youth crime epidemic . daniel andrews started that when he relaxed bail laws against the police commissioners advice.  there are teenagers here that have committed violent crime and been let out on bail 80 times or more. they laugh at the police.  2 boys in the western suburbs last year were hacked to death in the street by a gang of shitheads they didn't know, one of them was still alive when they cut his arm off.

there are sudinese familys sending their kids to boarding school in africa because its safer than melbourne,  what about the sudinese that beat a bloke ton death in footsgray a few months back , a random attack in broad daylight.  what about the gang last week that hacked up a kid with machetes in one of the big shopping centers in front of everyone. 

what about the richmond drug injecting center. daniel andrews put it next to a primary school, kids walk past drug dealers working outside the facility and sometimes they walk around dead bodies.

i could go on forever but you left turkeys will just say i am full of shit because its easier than facing the truth.

[Brendan]

1 hour ago, willedoo said:

In case anyone is wondering why I clicked the informative button on Brendan's post - I saw the post and he had a string of icons there starting to resemble a poker machine. There was left to right, 1 Like, 1 Haha, 1 Winner and 1 Sad. So I thought why not give him a crack at getting the full jackpot - one of every type, the full string. So come on blokes, don't be mean, all it needs now is 1 Confused, 1 Thanks and 1 Agree. I'm not sure if anyone's ever hit the jackpot on this forum before.

best you can come up with.

[Brendan]

1 hour ago, Marty_d said:

Firstly you're conflating state and federal politics there. I'm not a Victorian so I know bugger all about your state government.

Not sure either how Labor's current immigration policy has anything to do with their election promises, I can't remember immigration being an issue at the last election.

And if you get rid of immigrants, who looks after aged care, fruit picking and all the other jobs people born here don't want? Plus, I know it's not a popular statistic for those on the far right, but immigrants are less likely to commit crimes and more entrepreneurial than people born here.

Not at all sure either why you think Labor is soft on crime.

In terms of PHONey doing a better job than the current government, I hope you're joking. They would be absolutely hopeless, a failed experiment like the Trump one in the USA.

another thing too. because they are so soft on youth crime the gangs get hired for a few hundred bucks 

by organised criminals to do their dirty work  . have a look at the age of the people that get caught  doing all the fire bombings around the place.  they get out on bail the next day.

[willedoo]

13 minutes ago, Brendan said:

best you can come up with.

Don't worry Brendan, it's not your chain I'm jerking. I was expecting a bite from someone else.