Grumpy Old Nasho Posted September 20 Posted September 20 ICE has removed nearly 200,000 people since January with operations ramping up in sanctuary cities https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-deported-nearly-200000-so-far-during-trumps-second-term-setting-pace-highest-level-decade?msockid=086ef633688e6db334d0e06c69006c07 Good thing hey!
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted September 20 Posted September 20 Secretary Noem Announces 1.6 Million Illegal Aliens Have Left the U.S. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/14/secretary-noem-announces-16-million-illegal-aliens-have-left-us
octave Posted September 21 Posted September 21 Is this the sort of thing you approve of? This is one of many instances of thuggish brutality from these morons. I have no problem with deporting criminals, but that is not what is happening. There are plenty of examples, such as a New Zealand woman taken into custody or the Canadian woman. They should investigate people first and determine whether there is evidence of illegality, and then arrest, rather than arresting people, often with excessive force people merely because they look foreign. 1 2
Marty_d Posted September 21 Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said: ICE has removed nearly 200,000 people since January with operations ramping up in sanctuary cities https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-deported-nearly-200000-so-far-during-trumps-second-term-setting-pace-highest-level-decade?msockid=086ef633688e6db334d0e06c69006c07 Good thing hey! No.
onetrack Posted September 21 Posted September 21 (edited) Quote This means safer streets, taxpayer savings, pressure off of schools and hospital services and better job opportunities for Americans. I can't wait to see the vastly improved statistics in all these areas come out soon. So, I guess this means mass and random shootings will decrease to barely measurable levels? - schools will be able to report better teacher to student ratios, and better graduation rates? - hospitals will provide immediate and low cost health care? - and "genuine, legal" Americans will come out of hiding from those criminal immigrants, and line up for all those new jobs?? Personally, I reckon the mass and random shooting rates won't even alter (because its angry White Americans who are carrying out most of the mass shootings) - and the schools and hospitals will still struggle to cope, because they can't get menial jobs filled. Anyone who does front for all those newly available jobs will want high rates of pay, because they're far better educated, and consider themselves more intelligent than any third-world immigrant. It's interesting to note that the USPS has run up a monstrous deficit caused by decades of massive losses, largely caused by having to pay employees according to their education level, rather than the job they're actually doing. So you have people with PhD's sorting mail, and they are being paid double what a lowly-educated immigrant would do the job for. So, not much chance of lowering costs in any area where educated white Americans are being employed. Then there's the problem of trying to get rich white Americans to do jobs that are simply hard work - the trades (electrical, plumbing, bricklaying, etc), construction labouring work, truck driving, anything where there's a need to get hands dirty and put in long hours. Rich white Americans don't want these jobs, they want managerial positions and office jobs, where they feel they belong. America is shortly going to suffer from a major inability to find enough people to do lowly-paid menial work. That then means the pay rates for these jobs skyrocket as employers get desperate to fill these positions. Higher pay rates for these jobs means wage inflation, and an overall increase in inflation. Add in Trumps tariffs, and ordinary Americans will soon be crying out that they can't afford anything any more. Australia, despite its major immigration increase, still has problems trying to find people to do the above-mentioned jobs. I see local farmers advertising for road train drivers for upcoming harvest work. They're offering $60 an hr - and they still can't get enough truck drivers. No-one wants to be away from home and family for long periods, and put in long hours of hard, tiring work. The same goes for a raft of other jobs, I got charged $200 hr for an electrician and his apprentice recently, that was $140 hr for the sparky, and $60 hr for his apprentice. And I was lucky enough to get him within a couple of weeks of wanting the job done - and his phone rang incessantly while he was working, with clients looking to get electrical work done. I hate to think how we'd go, if we immediately sent 200,000 immigrants home. We had our bathroom renovated last year, completely gutted and rebuilt. The two blokes doing the hard yakka, ripping out the old tiling, ripping up the floor, and doing the new tiling, were both Iranians. Decent, hard-working blokes who were glad to be away from all the Middle Eastern problems of dictators, Mullahs running things, Stone-age social mores, and constant wars with random murders, caused by tribal hatreds. Edited September 21 by onetrack 2 1
red750 Posted September 21 Author Posted September 21 Saw a meme, didn't copy it, saying "David felled Goliath with a stone. It's not the weapon, it's the intent of the person with the weapon."
Popular Post onetrack Posted September 21 Popular Post Posted September 21 Absolute, total, Right-Wing Christian Fundamentalist BS - the same as this Instagram post, below. These people are NRA diehards, they worship guns as the ruling God. Modern firearms are excellent for killing human beings at long range, accurately, with guaranteed results, and can kill multiple numbers of humans in seconds. The safest societies are the ones with strict firearm controls. As an additional benefit, suicides are markedly reduced with major firearm restrictions. After the Port Arthur gun buyback and the major reduction in firearm numbers, the suicide rate in Australia went down by 60% - because most suicides are by firearm and they present to depressed people as an easy quick death. All that's needed here now, is to jail murderous criminals who trade in, and carry illegal firearms, for much longer periods. You carry a concealed firearm, you're planning the death of someone. That's planning a premeditated murder, and should have a minimum jail term of 10 years, actually served, not reduced because of good behaviour. At present, they get a slap on the wrist for being found with an illegal firearm, and it's taken off them. So they promptly acquire another one rapidly. Dealers in illegal firearms should get 25 years. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOo_or-ibD2/ 2 3
Popular Post Marty_d Posted September 21 Popular Post Posted September 21 1 hour ago, red750 said: Saw a meme, didn't copy it, saying "David felled Goliath with a stone. It's not the weapon, it's the intent of the person with the weapon." Well, for a start he probably didn't do it at all. The story is from a work of fiction. If he did, he didn't do it from 200m, and he couldn't have killed multiple people in a short time with no one knowing where the stones were coming from. Australia's last mass shooting - Port Arthur, 1996. That's almost 30 years ago. Wonder what changed? Wasn't the intent of crazy people. 4 1
facthunter Posted September 21 Posted September 21 You could use a Rock from Trumps Head. There's plenty. The quote is a Parable, the Meaning of which may be lost with time. Lets Hope "Time wounds ALL Heels" or Dog has a funny sense of Humour. Consider IF all these "funny" people are Going to Heaven, HOW COULD IT Be Heaven?. Nev 1 2
Popular Post Marty_d Posted September 21 Popular Post Posted September 21 Good thing I don't believe in heaven. Must be terrible for christians, knowing it'll be full of Trump supporters. 1 1 3
onetrack Posted September 21 Posted September 21 I've got some bad news for a very large number of "Christian" Trump supporters - and that bad news is, they won't be going to Heaven, because they place their faith in the Gun God, not in the God of the Bible. Their very worship of the Gun shows they have no faith in their Heavenly God to protect them. 2 1
facthunter Posted September 21 Posted September 21 Trump is a FAKE Christian. They are the worst. Nev 2
ClintonB Posted September 21 Posted September 21 Christians are meant to be people who serve humanity by giving to those in need. Trump is the least Christian person I can think of. Only in it for himself. 3
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted September 22 Posted September 22 There's a bloke on the internet who was called up in the 60s and he objected, saying, "I believe everyone has the right to live, I won't take the life of another human" ... He was given a jail sentence of two years. His name is Brian Ross, you should have heard of him onetrack. You can go to jail for refusing to kill people using a gun. 1
rgmwa Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Ross’s grounds for noncompliance, as described in the interview, were his strong opposition to conscription and a belief in the rights of individuals to exercise choice. At his court hearing, Ross also voiced a moral objection to killing and to Australia’s involvement in Vietnam, which he believed was an unjust war. The Vietnam War was the first conflict to be extensively reported live on television and the impact of its coverage contributed to the strong civic action against the war. Ross was sentenced to two years jail under the Commonwealth Crimes Act, but released after mounting public pressure and press coverage prompted an ACT Supreme Court enquiry into his case. Justice Smithers found Ross to be exempt from military service under section 29A (1) of the National Service Act and he was released after the Governor-General granted him mercy, possibly alleviating some of the political pressure on the Government to soften its stance. Under section 29A (1) of the National Service Act, a ‘conscientious objector’ is a person who sincerely believes that it is wrong to engage in any form of military service. Between 1965 and 1971, just over 1000 men applied for this status. Of the 1052 applicants, 733 were granted total exemption from any military service, 142 were exempted from combat duties and 137 had their applications rejected. 1 1
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted September 22 Posted September 22 You see what I mean, you can go to jail for refusing to kill people, as happened to Brian Ross.
rgmwa Posted September 22 Posted September 22 And he was subsequently exempted from National Service on the basis of his beliefs, as were most of the other conscientious objectors at the time. 1
Grumpy Old Nasho Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Yes I've read the story. He put forth his case and said "I'll spend as much time in jail as I have to because of my beliefs" ... then they jailed him. Just an ordinary innocent bloke. Never mind all the young guys who weren't called up and didn't have to do anything. Nor anyone else for that matter. As President Trump said, we were suckers and losers.
rgmwa Posted September 22 Posted September 22 As if pretending he had bone spurs to avoid the draft makes Trump smart and a winner and qualified to pass judgement. 1 1 1
facthunter Posted September 22 Posted September 22 Context is everything in this stuff. Trump used a shonky Doctor to Help HIM avoid the draft. .Trump never had to "LIVE" in the real world. He was Shielded/Protected from it by his Father. making him a bit of a "SOOK" really and a Bully but never exposing himself to actual contact.. Nev 1
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