What has Trump done now?

[Jerry_Atrick]

I don't feel sorry for the farmers. Often, they are quite cunning operators, especially on the commodities markets. They knew what they were voting for and what was promised. They also knew he didn't have the leash of another potential term, so he was likely to let rip. They must have thought they were going to somehow be exempted from his shenanigans, but I can't see how. 

 

Also, how exactly were the purported problems disaffecting farmers (and I will admit, true illegal immigration is one, of which refugees are not illegal until their case has been resolved)? The illegal immigration meant they could get willing workers and a fraction of the cost of unwilling workers. The so called repatriation of industries would take an eon, so tariffs as a stick, without a carrot approach could only go one way and increase their input prices. The removal of whatever health care the poorer workers could access to keep them healthy was taken away and precluding those getting sick from working; making people go without food because they don't earn enough doesn't exactly lead to either a healthy or motivated work force. I am not even sure he was used his tariff windfall to really support the farmers because, unless he is able to override the constitution absolutely, he cannot be elected a third time (although there is spealk the constitution means no more than 2 consecutive terms) and his dismantling of the democratic institutions, of which I have to admit, seem to be falling easier than they should, may help him not need the support.

 

So, if anything, the farmers got exactly what they voted for.. and they would have known it was coming unless they thought somehow they could be separated out. Don't feel for them at all - except those that voted Democrats or someone else.. even abstaining was a nod that they would rather see Chump in than elect a democrat and wait for someone better in the Republican party to come along. And I normally defend one's right not to vote.. but when things were getting extreme, they really had to stand up to defend their interests.. which they didn't. 

 

On another note, Jimmy Kimmel is back on the air after a massive consumer backlash on Disney businesses. Here is the Youtube clip. It is a very sobering clip, with even a nod to Ted Cruz: 

 

 

Hopefully there will be a sense in Republicans that Chump is losing it and they revert to some sense of normality.

Edited September 24 by Jerry_Atrick

[red750]

Trump has unveiled a gallery of presidents portraits in the White House. All there except Joe Biden, whose place is filled with a photo of the autopen which signed his signature.

 

Such a small minded bastard.

[facthunter]

Right on there. He's not up to the Job. Embarrassing for the USA. The whole World KNOWS. Nev

[onetrack]

So, now Trump is planning a big bailout for farmers. The last time he screwed up U.S. farm markets, he paid out $23B to U.S. farmers to make up for their losses.

 

I don't know how he thinks he can keep bailing out farmers, when he's supposed to a premium-grade, free-enterprise capitalist. Plus, the bailouts go dead against all his other Govt cost-cutting moves.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/25/business/trump-farmer-bailout.html

 

But at the end of the day, the farmers themselves say they don't want constant bailouts for constant losses, they only want stable markets, and a market share that isn't screwed up by politicians. Trumps management of the U.S. farm economy is wrecking any kind of global competitiveness that the U.S. farmers ever achieved.

 

https://fortune.com/2025/09/25/the-frustration-is-overwhelming-soybean-farmers-feel-betrayed-as-argentina-blows-a-hole-in-rural-americas-47-billion-soybean-bonanza/

 

Edited September 26 by onetrack

[Jerry_Atrick]

Chump has ordered a meeting of all the top military brass in one place: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hegseth-calls-rare-meeting-large-number-generals-admirals/story?id=125935650

 

Interesting reading on how they are "optimising" the command structure. 

 

Better hope security is better than this:

 

[facthunter]

Nothing  good about this. It will be another SHOW of "SOMETHING". Pathetic. Nev

[onetrack]

Jerry, the video has been blocked for viewing by us, as it's apparently owned by NBC, and they are refusing to show it in anything other than a few selected countries - and we're not one of those selected countries.

[rgmwa]

I read that he wants to give them a lecture on the `warrior ethos'. That should go down well.

[red750]

Donald Trump enforces 40-year-old death penalty rule in one state sparking nationwide debate

 

Read more.

[onetrack]

Yeah, right on! Let's lay some "trumped-up" charges against Trump, and send him to the electric chair! I bet he might have a different opinion on the death penalty, then!

 

The lawyers will be celebrating this! - appeal after appeal, after appeal! - some previous death-row inmates died of natural causes, before the death penalty was carried out.

[facthunter]

A RE VOLTING suggestion?.  Perhaps a "SACRIFICE" in the Biblical sense. Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

2 hours ago, onetrack said:

Yeah, right on! Let's lay some "trumped-up" charges against Trump, and send him to the electric chair! I bet he might have a different opinion on the death penalty, then!

Johnson and Nixon were worse presidents than Trump. They killed off thousands of young Americans for no good reason, conscripts among them. You forget too easily why you lost two years of your life to those murderous presidents back then.

[onetrack]

I have put it behind me, there's no benefit in carrying grudges for life, or in going over already-raked ground. I don't consider those years "lost", I did gain some benefits from it.

Military engineering training was comprehensive and instructive, and has stayed with me for life. The experiences of being forced to deal with Army dickheads was educational.

Travelling to a new country and experiencing a new culture was eye-opening. Travelling around Australia (and overseas) at Army expense, and living in Army barracks was educational. 

We even got to live in some great locations in Australia - the barracks at South Head in Sydney, the School of Military Engineering at Casula, Canungra, and Karrakatta.

There were some times that weren't good, but I don't dwell on them, SWMBO has taught me to keep a positive spin on life. I trust you can leave your bitterness behind.

[rgmwa]

Abe Lincoln was president during the American Civil War which killed at least 700,000 soldiers on US soil and he is generally revered.  All American presidents have blood on their hands to some degree but I'm not disagreeing with your statement in terms of US casualties and responsibility for the Vietnam war. You can also include the Bush's efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. However Trump is in a different league in almost every other way (so far). 

[red750]

29 minutes ago, onetrack said:

I trust you can leave your bitterness behind.

Nah, he'll carry his grudge to the grave.

[facthunter]

That's a bit rough after what O/T just Posted.  Nev

[Grumpy Old Nasho]

16 hours ago, rgmwa said:

However Trump is in a different league in almost every other way (so far). 

Trump tries to stop wars. The other presidents started wars. That's the difference.

[red750]

If Trump stops an argument between two neighbours over a fence dispute, he claims he ended a war.

[facthunter]

Trump seeks the Nobel Peace Prize and has openly ASKED people to recommend him. He's threatened to invade several South American Countries and even Use force with CANADA and STATES of USA itself with National guards. HE's a BULLY and threats all the time to use FORCE. Nev

[rgmwa]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

Trump tries to stop wars. The other presidents started wars. That's the difference.

That's why I said he hasn't started any `so far', although you could argue he's busy fomenting civil war in the US. He's also not averse to bombing other countries when it suits him, and his efforts to stop the wars in Ukraine and Palestine have been pretty weak and inconsistent. His claims to have stopped 7 (or maybe 10?) wars also don't stand up very well to scrutiny.  

[Marty_d]

What wars has he stopped?

He talks a big game but delivers nothing. According to him he's stopped 7 wars, including between countries that were very surprised to be told they were at war.

@Grumpy Old Nasho I don't know how you can keep defending this scumbag, he truly is a terrible person and the worst US President - twice.

[facthunter]

It's ALL about Trump. He's not working for the GOP. He's a Hump and dump kind of guy. DOG Knows why USA People are so worshipping and forgiving of his Obvious shortcomings. The REST of the WORLD can  see it very clearly. Nev

[red750]

A White House official provided a list of seven conflicts the president is referencing: Israel and Iran, Rwanda and Democratic Republic of the Congo, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Thailand and Cambodia, India and Pakistan, Egypt and Ethiopia, and Serbia and Kosovo.

[Jerry_Atrick]

On 27/09/2025 at 12:49 AM, onetrack said:

Jerry, the video has been blocked for viewing by us, as it's apparently owned by NBC, and they are refusing to show it in anything other than a few selected countries - and we're not one of those selected countries.

It is the opening scene of a Johnny English film where every agent of "MI-7" are gathered at a wedding, and Johnny English is guarding them.. and a bomb gets through and they all die. (except for Johnny English and his partner).

 

 

[facthunter]

God!  Now there's no Point in Me watching it. I stopped reading the Bible when someone told me how it ended.   Nev