What has Trump done now?

[facthunter]

Never followed any Football or AFL team. Lived in Vic since 1965. Wasn't always easy though, not barracking for anyone. .   Nev

[old man emu]

 

[facthunter]

Pass.  Nev

[Litespeed]

I would watch if they put Eddie Maguire head on a spike to kick off the game.

 

That is fair sport

[Jerry_Atrick]

Jeepers. that is a bit dark.. did he cause grief in your life?

[Marty_d]

I wouldn't go as far as Litespeed but he is a waste of space.

Heard him on the radio the other day talking up the Macquarie Point white elephant and saying that if the Tasmanian government doesn't build it, no business will trust them.

Absolute shite. There's probably about 2000 people in Tassie who physically regularly go to the football, and most of them are from the north of the state.

I don't particularly care whether Tassie gets a football team or not, but to my mind the AFL have acted like absolute c**ts in mandating, as a deal-breaker, a new billion dollar stadium which the state can't afford in prime waterfront land which should be mixed use restaurant/ park/ boulevard etc.

 

[facthunter]

It's actually Compulsory to Barrack for SOMEONE in Melbourne..  Nev

[facthunter]

I think it's substitute for Religion. The TROPHY Wives are interesting. They are compulsory too.   Nev

[kgwilson]

When we were on holiday in Tasmania last year almost every local we met with an opinion about building a new stadium in Hobart was against it. Mostly they couldn't understand what was wrong with the existing one. It looked pretty good to me as well.

[Marty_d]

It was a classic conflation by the AFL.  "If you want a team, you gotta build the stadium".  There's heaps of cars on the road with "Yes AFL team, Yes stadium" bumper stickers, and an equal number with "No stadium" on them.  But until recently I never saw one with "Yes AFL team, No stadium".

 

Trouble is, the state government went along with it, Jeremy saw a chance to build his legacy, and Labor jumped on board as well. 

 

Now we're in the ridiculous situation where both major parties want the $1b+ stadium even though this snap election is because the state's budget is already in the shitter, so anyone opposed to the stadium is going to be voting for the Greens or other minor parties/independents, and whoever gets in is going to have a far smaller minority than the Libs currently do.

 

As I said the majority of diehard footy fans are up north.  We have a population here of about half a mil. Are they really expecting crowds of 5-10% of the entire state's population to attend every game?

[Litespeed]

All good points.

 

I was thinking how when doing a press conference about the report stating his club had been horribly racist against black players including insisting their girlfriends get abortions etc.

 

And the prick said it was a proud day for the club, and he meant it.

 

His sins are many

[Jerry_Atrick]

Care to name the offender.. there was a lot  of disinformation about the key players in the saga I am thinking about..

 

The Aussie Human Rights Commission basically said nothing to answer to.. Despite this, the club decided to pay up anyway

[red750]

When is someone going to tell Trump to pull his head in, he doesn't rule the world. He wasn't elected to run this country. What right has he to tell us how much we should spend on defence?

 

The amount spent on defence worldwide is staggering and sickening.Almost every thing troubling mankind, and nature, could probably be fixed if the money spent on defence was redirected to corrrecting these problems. Just because some greedy a**holes can't mind their own business.

[red750]

Trump now considering deporting his former best friend Elon.

[onetrack]

Just wait until Elon's vindictiveness comes to the fore and he starts unloading on his "best mate". It will be pretty revealing. I could never understand how Trump could promote Tesla's, when he's dead set on eliminating EV's from the landscape, and promoting oil companies and more gas guzzlers. Just goes to show his sincerity is non-existent.

[Marty_d]

21 minutes ago, onetrack said:

Just wait until Elon's vindictiveness comes to the fore and he starts unloading on his "best mate". It will be pretty revealing. I could never understand how Trump could promote Tesla's, when he's dead set on eliminating EV's from the landscape, and promoting oil companies and more gas guzzlers. Just goes to show his sincerity is non-existent.

I think the quarter of a billion Elon gave him to get elected compensated for his anti-EV sentiments 

Edited Wednesday at 03:09 AM by Marty_d

[facthunter]

Trump HUMPS and then DUMPs everybody.  It's PAR for the Course. IF you beat him at Golf, He'd deport you. IF HE can't be the Centre of Attention, it's NOT happening Mate. He want's to RUN the entire WORLD From a low majority of a 200 million  voting Population of which perhaps 140 Mil voted. so   a great majority  of the planet had NO  SAY whatever. A preposterous suggestion. WE should tell him where HE gets OFF. It WILL HAVE to HAPPEN sometime.  Albanese's win was IMPRESSIVE. Not Imposing tariffs on the USA in return I pretty COOL. Trump is USA's Problem and their Creation. There's Plenty of other fish in the sea. to deal with. When someone unilaterally Breaks Deals, why  DEAL with them?  Nev

[old man emu]

I hear that his latest is to stop supplying the Ukraine with missiles on the grounds that the USA doesn't have enough for its own defence.

[facthunter]

Trump is FULL of IT.  Nev

[Jerry_Atrick]

Sh, Nev.. you forgot Sh... :-)

 

 

[red750]

Well, he got his wish. The Big Beautiful Bill was passed 218 for, to 214 against, in time for him to sign it into law on July 4. Pity help poorer Americans.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Marty_d]

As Peter just mentioned, Trumps "Big Beautiful Bill" has passed.

 

This bill is beautiful for billionaires, because they benefit hugely from tax cuts.

It's very much horrible for most Americans, removing vast amounts of money from health, food assistance programs, education and environment.  This is so it can pay for those tax cuts for the wealthy, as well as increasing the size of ICE's budget by a factor of 14 (from $3.5b to $48.5b).

Despite these cuts it will still add 3.3 TRILLION dollars of debt over the next decade.

 

This, by any objective view, is a terrible and harmful bill.  The people it affects the most are the poorest, and ironically, their "representatives" in the Republican party are the ones who pushed it through - against their own interests, their political interests, and the interests of their constituents.

 

Why?

 

I can only think that Trump and his MAGA freaks, so similar to Hitler and his Brownshirts, have such a grip of fear on house Republicans that they do not have the courage to stand up to him, even on such a disgusting piece of legislation.

What else can explain why they would vote for something so wrong?  Many of them had publicly spoken out against the bill in the days before they passed it.

 

Seeing this travesty makes me so glad we don't have a "cult of personality" type head of state here in Australia.  I'm actually starting to think that remaining a monarchy and being kind of attached to the UK is no bad thing.  Let's face it, no one is going to throw themselves on a grenade for Albo or Sussan.  They are simply the politician who happens to lead their party, not an emperor-wannabe who wants to impose his twisted desires on the whole country.

We have sufficient distance from our "King" that neither he nor his successors have any influence over our country.  I kind of think of England as the old parent's place; America is the rebellious older child who left and joined a religious cult, Australia is the younger but more mature kid who lives apart from Mum or Dad but still gets on ok with them.

[facthunter]

Power By RIGHT of Birth is a  step too far especially IF there's a large degree of inbreeding. I've always had  a bit of time for Charles but that isn't the Point. Trump likes the IDEA of a King when He's IT but I think HE is Far KING terrible and More dangerous as time passes and HE assumes more and More POWER. He's drunk on it. . The UK house of LORDS is RIDICULOUS and the King's Power is largely Ceremonial which the Brits do with unrivalled skill. Nev

[rgmwa]

For Trump it’s all about the fanfare and show that goes with signing the thing on the 4th of July like he wanted to do. Now he can brag that he did it. To him that’s far more important than what’s actually in it. He wouldn’t be across any of the detail or concerned about the debt because that will become somebody else’s problem after he’s gone. He’s had another big win as he sees it, and that’s all that matters.

[rgmwa]

Recent surveys showed that until a couple of weeks ago about half the American population had never even heard of the One Big Beautiful Bill. Seems hard to believe but then maybe not. It is America after all. A lot of people are probably going to be unpleasantly surprised when their entitlements start disappearing or become much harder to access.