kgwilson Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Remember Trump telling Zelenskyy he was gambling with WW3, well he may be just about ready to start it himself if he commits to dealing with Iran. If that happens you can bet the rest of the Arab world will have a go at all the US bases and interests they can get to. No matter how powerful the US thinks it is, it will not be able to defend everything and the only result will be a lot of destruction or use the nuclear card & that would be the end game. 1 1
Marty_d Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Israel played him brilliantly. So much for "art of the deal". This bozo has been led by the nose by every (other) dictator and right wing nutjob leader in the world. Even his own stupid base are against the US being in any other wars. But no, Donny the dickhead has been trumped by NetAnYahoo who needs a never ending series of wars to avoid prosecution when he is finally forced out of office. Both these clowns remind me of Gadaffi, and hopefully meet the same end. 1 2
red750 Posted June 19 Posted June 19 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/just-launched-trump-mobile-mocked-over-gulf-of-mexico-coverage-map-gaffe-priceless/ar-AA1GYUL6?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=706d6af09dda4af59100e04ce9597d76&ei=62
facthunter Posted June 19 Posted June 19 Or A GUN at your head. Holdings all the cards is just his way of describing it.. He sets you up then humiliates you. HE really IS a scunge who Craves absolute Power and Control. Nothing good will come from him unless it's co incidental and by chance.. It's ALL about HIM. and that will never change. Nev 1 1
nomadpete Posted June 19 Posted June 19 Warning! Trump uses new tactic.... he said something that nobody can disagree with.... Is this a first for Donny? "Trump claimed on Wednesday that 'nobody knows what I'm gonna do'" https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/trump-iran-washington-despicable-lies/ 1 1 1
Marty_d Posted June 19 Posted June 19 25 minutes ago, nomadpete said: Warning! Trump uses new tactic.... he said something that nobody can disagree with.... Is this a first for Donny? "Trump claimed on Wednesday that 'nobody knows what I'm gonna do'" https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/trump-iran-washington-despicable-lies/ He forgot to add "including myself" 1 1 2
facthunter Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Not wrong . The Bloke's a tool.. Becomes more evident by the Hour. Nev 2 1
red750 Posted June 21 Posted June 21 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/06/19/we-are-witnessing-the-death-of-american-democracy/?WT.mc_id=e_DM613259&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Acq_Acq_TS_Sat_0to30D&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Acq_Acq_TS_Sat_0to30D20250621&utm_campaign=DM613259 1
facthunter Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Trump doesn't heed the RULES. As far as He's concerned what HE says Over-rules everything. Democracy is just a hindrance. Nev 1
onetrack Posted June 21 Posted June 21 The latest Trump news is that he is ignoring all his Intelligence community advice and information, that says Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, to say that Iran IS building a nuclear weapon. This is a decision that says Trump has the ability to do what he likes, without consulting anyone, including Congress. If he chooses to join Israel in bombing Fordow, he may find he's only started another American war he can't end. So much for Trumps claim he doesn't start wars. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-21/donald-trump-says-tulsi-gabbard-wrong-on-iran-nuclear-program/105445142
nomadpete Posted June 21 Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, onetrack said: The latest Trump news is that he is ignoring all his Intelligence community advice and information, that says Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, to say that Iran IS building a nuclear weapon. This is a decision that says Trump has the ability to do what he likes, without consulting anyone, including Congress. If he chooses to join Israel in bombing Fordow, he may find he's only started another American war he can't end. So much for Trumps claim..... Don't crow yet. He still has plenty if time to reverse his decision. Maybe even several times. 2
nomadpete Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Does Iran have a trump tower yet? Or maybe it needs a trump golf course..... You never know what oportunities might arise. 1
Marty_d Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Maybe they have a spare luxury 747 hanging around. That would change his mind. (Equivalent value in bullion would be acceptable too). Corrupt prick. 1
onetrack Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Yerah, but those Arabs are pretty sneaky to deal with, when you want to trade something with them. He's gonna have trouble pulling a deal with them, they've got lots of oil, did anyone tell him that? 1 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted June 21 Posted June 21 Start at about 17:35 of this vid... It is not Chump per se, but oit is what he embodies. Most of the vid before it is pretty compelling watching too, except for the intermission , which tells us why British humour is so much better than US humour.. But that is another debate, another time. 1 1
Marty_d Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Well, the silly bugger has done it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-22/iran-israel-conflict-live-updates/105445676#live-blog-post-194006 Wouldn't want to be an American serviceman or -woman in any middle east bases right now. 1 1 1
facthunter Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Iranians are NOT Arabs. They have to keep on saying that, and do. Nev 2
old man emu Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 So much for waiting "two weeks" to either talk or fight. Will Saturday, June 22nd, 2025 live on in History as a Day of Infamy? Are the events of today Iran's Pearl Harbour? I think it's time for Australia to tell the USA: "P!ss off. Get your military off our soil. You can't be trusted to maintain global security. Call yourself the World's Policeman? You are the World's Terrorist." To give you an idea of what was involved in those raids, watch this video from time stamp 1:52 to see how the bombs work and what the results are likley to be. Take notice of the information of how multiple bombs are used to "drill" down into a structure. Trump said that the bombers dropped "full loads" of bombs, which suggests the drilling procedure was employed. 1 1 1
old man emu Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 That's what they said were the only devices that could destroy that underground facility.
onetrack Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) 2 hours ago, facthunter said: Iranians are NOT Arabs. They have to keep on saying that, and do. Nev Yeah, but has anyone told Chump that? They all look like Arabs, so they must be Arabs! Edited June 22 by onetrack typo...
facthunter Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Yes it looks like the Big ones have been dropped. I thought he was giving them time to make a Peace. Oh well keep, everyone guessing. What is his WORD worth? He doesn't care about that. Nev 2
rgmwa Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Well he's done the easy bit but the question is, what now? I'll bet the next step in his strategic plan is `We'll see what happens". 1
rgmwa Posted June 22 Posted June 22 This extract from an article in the AFR probably explains what got Trump over the line so soon after announcing a two week delay: "US media reported that Trump, Vice President J.D. Vance and Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth spoke with Israel’s prime minister, along with Defence Minister Israel Katz and military chief Eyal Zamir. Israel was incensed that Trump could waste the opportunity to move against Iran’s crown jewel nuclear sites by giving it more time." Netanyahu probably told him he was weak on Iran, and that would have been enough of an insult to get him to send the bombers in. 1
nomadpete Posted June 22 Posted June 22 32 minutes ago, rgmwa said: Netanyahu probably told him he was weak on Iran, and that would have been enough of an insult to get him to send the bombers in. They played him like a fish 😞 2 1
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