red750 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago My fault I know, but this is thread drift. I have started a new thread to continue the topic. 1
willedoo Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Albo's still copping flak over his golf club grant. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-10-27/pm-claim-marrickville-golf-grant-sewage-fix-rejected/107313346
Brendan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, Siso said: So basically he is a shonky con artist. His grandfather who he lived with was a local conman and petty criminal.
Brendan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said: Keep drinking the kool aid.. .. he was not born Anthony Ellery no matter how much Facebook says he was. And if he changed it when he was a child, it's a bit early to seek Italian votes. I never read this on Facebook. It has been kicking around for years in different stories I have read. It's odd that all of a sudden it's being said he was born with the Albanese surname. This story has changed and only recently. Albo does pay a lot of money to media outlets so I guess they altered his history.
facthunter Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago You are not looking for facts of any Relevence. All you wish to do is Put $#!t on him. Albo has influence on Media outlets?? Pull the other leg . It whistles. Nev
Brendan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said: Keep drinking the kool aid.. .. he was not born Anthony Ellery no matter how much Facebook says he was. And if he changed it when he was a child, it's a bit early to seek Italian votes. Keep the personal insults to yourself .
willedoo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) From Google AI using Wikipedia as a source: 'Yes, Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was registered and born with the surname Ellery (as Anthony Norman Ellery) on 2 March 1963, taking his mother Maryanne Ellery's maiden name.' Just as an edit - the plot thickens. The Google AI references Wikipedia + 1. Hovering the mouse over the reference link show the +1 as a link to a Facebook article where the above was stated. The Wikipedia article doesn't say who he was registered as at birth. So there you go Jerry. Edited 1 hour ago by willedoo
willedoo Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Always pays to dig deep into Google AI references. I've seen a lot over time that just quote what some bloke said on Facebook or some other public forum. 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Brendan said: Keep the personal insults to yourself . It is slang these days fort keep believing the conspiracy theories... I didn't immediately discount your claim, but thought it was strange more hadn't been made of it by the right wing MSM in Australia, So I took a look and It took all of 7 seconds to work out that it was a lie and most of where it was being claimed was on social media. With all due respect, objectively, it looks like an example of latching onto a conspiracy theory to confirm one's bias, especially in today's age where it is fairly easy to fact check. So, I don't resile or apologise. And I don't consider it a personal insult. If you want to criticise anyone in public, get the facts, otherwise, expect to be called out for it. BTW, if you read my posts, especially about the federal elections, my opinion of Albo is that he is not the greatest leader; I was very critical of him on many things. Pork barrelling seems to be a new found pursuit as well (note, seems). On the whole, not that it matters much, but he has earned my respect as a reasonable PM for Australia and when you look at the alternatives proffered up by any other party, that team has not done a bad job. They could definitely do a lot better (IMHO - according to my values which no doubt are different to yours). On Farcebook, I have recently ventured beyond Marketplace to its wider ecosystem. The law of multipliers applied to that toxic swamp explains exactly why there is impending social doom globally. Edited 1 hour ago by Jerry_Atrick 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, willedoo said: Always pays to dig deep into Google AI references. I've seen a lot over time that just quote what some bloke said on Facebook or some other public forum. Interesting. Search term for Google: "what is anthony albanese's original name" Response: 1
Jerry_Atrick Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Brendan said: This story has changed and only recently. Albo does pay a lot of money to media outlets so I guess they altered his history. Keep drinking... Unless you have evidence/reference of course. Would take some amount to convince the Murdoch media to change their view on Albo. Edited 1 hour ago by Jerry_Atrick
willedoo Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago Times are changing. I was listening to a researcher on the ABC radio and he was talking about the younger generations getting their political information via social media. My brain sieve can't quote the figure he gave regarding those getting info solely from social media, but I was surprised how high it was. That's why Albo and other pollies are doing these social media gigs, to chase the younger vote. We boomers and those a bit younger are used to getting ours from traditional media. 1
old man emu Posted 31 minutes ago Posted 31 minutes ago I really think that which ever mob forms the Government, the person that Party puts in the position of Leader should not have to carry the ball for evry MInister in the Government. Those Ministers were chosen to attned to the operations of a particular area of government. I think that they should be the ones fronting the media. The captain of a sporting team isn't the one who is expected to score all the points for the team. The Prime Minister's role should be more about the international diplomatic side of Federal politics. 1
Brendan Posted 28 minutes ago Posted 28 minutes ago 2 hours ago, facthunter said: You are not looking for facts of any Relevence. All you wish to do is Put $#!t on him. Albo has influence on Media outlets?? Pull the other leg . It whistles. Nev Albo has been trying to censor the media and social media for a long time. Even paying large sums of our money to tv networks.
old man emu Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Brendan said: Albo has been trying to censor the media and social media for a long time. Even paying large sums of our money to tv networks. I demand proof of that statement!
Brendan Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, Jerry_Atrick said: It is slang these days fort keep believing the conspiracy theories... I didn't immediately discount your claim, but thought it was strange more hadn't been made of it by the right wing MSM in Australia, So I took a look and It took all of 7 seconds to work out that it was a lie and most of where it was being claimed was on social media. With all due respect, objectively, it looks like an example of latching onto a conspiracy theory to confirm one's bias, especially in today's age where it is fairly easy to fact check. So, I don't resile or apologise. And I don't consider it a personal insult. If you want to criticise anyone in public, get the facts, otherwise, expect to be called out for it. BTW, if you read my posts, especially about the federal elections, my opinion of Albo is that he is not the greatest leader; I was very critical of him on many things. Pork barrelling seems to be a new found pursuit as well (note, seems). On the whole, not that it matters much, but he has earned my respect as a reasonable PM for Australia and when you look at the alternatives proffered up by any other party, that team has not done a bad job. They could definitely do a lot better (IMHO - according to my values which no doubt are different to yours). On Farcebook, I have recently ventured beyond Marketplace to its wider ecosystem. The law of multipliers applied to that toxic swamp explains exactly why there is impending social doom globally. How could anyone say he is a good prime Minister. He has no interest in helping Australians . I have to stop before I get in trouble again. Too many left wing socialists here.
Brendan Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago Just now, old man emu said: I demand proof of that statement! Demand what you want. Look it up
Brendan Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, old man emu said: I demand proof of that statement! Google albos media payments
willedoo Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, old man emu said: I really think that which ever mob forms the Government, the person that Party puts in the position of Leader should not have to carry the ball for evry MInister in the Government. Those Ministers were chosen to attned to the operations of a particular area of government. I think that they should be the ones fronting the media. The captain of a sporting team isn't the one who is expected to score all the points for the team. The Prime Minister's role should be more about the international diplomatic side of Federal politics. That's a tricky one. Often the leader of a party gets the job because he or she is the best performer on the floor of Parliament. That ability can sometimes also make them the best to sell their stuff to the media. Some ministers are ok at their jobs but are prone to embarrassing gaffs in front of the media so they get sidelined/insulated/firewalled, pick whichever term suits. Often the PM is left with the job of dealing with the media. At least they have their mandatory flanking noddies to keep them company. It puts a big workload on a PM, particularly if those under him/her are bigger idiots than he/she is. It's probably a fine line between overworking the PM and delegating too much freedom to ministers. You see the worst effect of the latter in some developing countries with the amount of corruption that free hand can result in.
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