DrZoos Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Egypt has shown us the extreme dangers of not conforming to party lines......you get mobs like the Muslim brotherhood take control, simply because their fanatical views are more aligned with other fanatics...despite being far out numbered by other voters What we need in this country is some serious accountability like we have just had...where bad leaders get turfed on their ass just like Rudd, Gillard, Rudd and Abbott...I dont have a problem with it...if your that #$!@#$!@# up a leader than you deserve to be turfed on your ear... Sure its a very sad reflection on politicians, but its a good reflection on our actual political process... Perhaps some sole searching by these morons and the institutions that pump them out as clones one after the other, full of spin, might do some research and try to inflict some different damage upon us ... Sydney and Melbourne grammar schools, universities and the like need to take a deep look at themselves and realise the crap they repeatedly teach these morons and their spin doctors no longer cuts the mustard...the average person these days has enough intelligence to detect and rebuke spin doctors in a heartbeat, let alone a breath or sentence. Malcolm gets the nod, because he so far does not conform to the spin doctrination of modern politics....Shorten is about to rapidly and abruptly get the flick, because he is too stupid to realise Rudd, Gillard and Abbot just got the flick because the public hates 3 phrase sloganeers that have been coached by Sydney bullshiv artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalman Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The RC is a furphy, everyone knows that. If the cops, the crime commission and all the other existing law enforcement out there can't investigate actual crime, what the hell is the use of them? Abbott started the TURC solely to dish dirt on the Labor party by association and his plan is obviously working in your particular case. By this logic, given that the RC into institutional responses to child abuse have found far worse criminal activity in some religious organisations, and Tony Abbott, Cory Bernardi and Kevin Andrews are religious nutters, they're criminal too. Fair comparison? Yeah, I agree, it's equally as stupid a proposition. And even if you think the ALP is tainted by union involvement, why are you having a crack at the Greens? They are a separate party, you do know that, right? Special kind of stupid. Hmmm. Well the fact that all those other departments haven't even got close to the scumbags that the RC has in a fairly short time says a lot about those departments , the RC was actually called for by a few union reps who happened to be disgusted by the rorting within the organisation , and to date I don't think there's been any LNP members giving evidence against union thieves,,,,only other union thieves in an act of self destruction,,,,,,but again it's all justified by what someone else does or doesn't do ,,,,,if something is a crime then it's a crime ,it doesn't need to be compared to something completely unrelated. And it's not guilt by association at all,,,if these people are guilty of a crime then they are guilty ,,,end of story ! As for being "stupid" surely anyone who's a union member would welcome their union being stopped from ripping them off ,,cause if they're happy to be screwed over by their alleged advocates then that is "a special kind of stupid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Public Service Message. Remember to change your Smoke Alarm Batteries each time Australia changes it's Prime Minister. Well that will be a waste of batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willedoo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sydney and Melbourne grammar schools, universities and the like need to take a deep look at themselves and realise the crap they repeatedly teach these morons and their spin doctors no longer cuts the mustard...the average person these days has enough intelligence to detect and rebuke spin doctors in a heartbeat, let alone a breath or sentence. Malcolm gets the nod, because he so far does not conform to the spin doctrination of modern politics....Shorten is about to rapidly and abruptly get the flick, because he is too stupid to realise Rudd, Gillard and Abbot just got the flick because the public hates 3 phrase sloganeers that have been coached by Sydney bullshiv artists The one that gets me is the noddies at press conferences - the robot or robots standing behind the speaker who's job it is to nod their head in agreement at everything the f**kwit being interviewed says. It's about as real and natural as 'talking points'. It's only just starting to dawn on the pollies that if they keep treating the public like we're mentally handicapped, then there will be a change of government at every election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The one that gets me is the noddies at press conferences - the robot or robots standing behind the speaker who's job it is to nod their head in agreement at everything the f**kwit being interviewed says. It's about as real and natural as 'talking points'. It's only just starting to dawn on the pollies that if they keep treating the public like we're mentally handicapped, then there will be a change of government at every election. I agree, it looks stupid, they think the general voter is stupid at times. Look at QLD, the voters were not happy with Labor so they threw them out and voted in Newman. Newman took things too far too quickly and he was out on his ear as well. They have to realise that the general voter knows that tough decisions have to be made but they have to be made over a certain time period. The advantage of Malcolm is that he is a self made millonair worth approx 190 million. He is a very intelligent business man who will be good for the country ( where as his opponent is a union theif and alleged rapist) no problem working out who is the best man for the job as Australia's Prime Minister between those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZoos Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 [ATTACH]47709._xfImport[/ATTACH] Its a tough gig living on 300k p.a. when you where 3 days away from 600k p.a. for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thousands Of Flags To Lose Jobs [/url][ATTACH]47710._xfImport[/ATTACH] Thousands of the nation’s flags are out of work today after Tony Abbott was deposed as Prime Minister. At an emergency meeting this morning, Australia’s flags were told work would be cut back, with many to be made redundant. Some, they were told, had already been hoisted up the flagpole for the last time. A spokesperson for Australia’s flags said it was a dark day for the trade. “Employment for Australia’s flags has grown considerably under the Abbott Government. Now we’re facing unemployment rates of up to 50%, possibly higher for younger flags”. He said there could be a whole generation of flags that may never get a job at a press conference or take part in a 10-flag security announcement. “That in itself is a tragedy,” he said. One flag we spoke to said he was one of the lucky ones. “I’ve been in this game a while, and I’ve had my fair share of work, particularly recently. But I do fear for the young guys coming up, especially – dare I say it – if there’s a move towards a Republic”. He said he should have seen the change in leadership coming. “I’ve spent my life looking at poles. But we were taken by surprise. Really for us, last night’s poll was the only poll that mattered”. http://www.theshovel.com.au/2015/09/15/thousands-of-flags-to-lose-jobs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 [ATTACH=full]37935[/ATTACH]Its a tough gig living on 300k p.a. when you where 3 days away from 600k p.a. for life I love photoshop sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Well the fact that all those other departments haven't even got close to the scumbags that the RC has in a fairly short time says a lot about those departments , the RC was actually called for by a few union reps who happened to be disgusted by the rorting within the organisation , and to date I don't think there's been any LNP members giving evidence against union thieves,,,,only other union thieves in an act of self destruction,,,,,,but again it's all justified by what someone else does or doesn't do ,,,,,if something is a crime then it's a crime ,it doesn't need to be compared to something completely unrelated.And it's not guilt by association at all,,,if these people are guilty of a crime then they are guilty ,,,end of story ! As for being "stupid" surely anyone who's a union member would welcome their union being stopped from ripping them off ,,cause if they're happy to be screwed over by their alleged advocates then that is "a special kind of stupid" If they are guilty of a crime they will be charged (unless of course they were bought by the LNP for a political witch hunt in which case they will just have to pay the money back...maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I didn't watch the Project last night, but apparently they had Andrew Bolt on (always good entertainment to see our version of Fox's Sean Hannity have a chat) and he actually seriously agreed with Waleed Aly's joking suggestion that they turn to Cory Bernadi as the leader of a new conservative party! Cory Bernadi was described by those his own party some years ago (well before Abbott was elected) as "a person without any intellect who should never have risen above branch president" and "deluded". Another said "In reality he’s like the kid in the playground who pulls his pants down so everyone will look at him, but he has no idea how he’s embarrassing himself in the process." Bernadi - our own male version of Sarah Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Page Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 yeah baby, it is on! I will not let your happiness get too entrenched F_T... We will be in for extreme turbulence and a few wings will will snap off.. Big help go and get some bigger seat belts that is a start.. Just watch the manoeuvrering and not watch the polls. Regards, KP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Australian conservative politicians, proudly supporting [ATTACH]47711._xfImport[/ATTACH] since 1973. OME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 NR is better than Delroy who really only entertains. Deep down his show is rather shallow.Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I didn't watch the Project last night, but apparently they had Andrew Bolt on (always good entertainment to see our version of Fox's Sean Hannity have a chat) and he actually seriously agreed with Waleed Aly's joking suggestion that they turn to Cory Bernadi as the leader of a new conservative party! Cory Bernadi was described by those his own party some years ago (well before Abbott was elected) as "a person without any intellect who should never have risen above branch president" and "deluded". Another said "In reality he’s like the kid in the playground who pulls his pants down so everyone will look at him, but he has no idea how he’s embarrassing himself in the process." Bernadi - our own male version of Sarah Palin. You can see that clip here... http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/andrew-bolt-raises-prospect-of-cory-bernardi-as-leader-of-new-conservative-party-on-the-project-20150915-gjngrt.html What amuses me is Bolt saying "Where are the conservatives going to go? Who are they going to vote for?" as if the LNP has suddenly embraced socialism. News for you Bolt - conservatives have much more of a choice than progressives, they can vote for either LNP or Labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Well.......... What did I tell you, it was not even one day and Turnbull has already done a deal without consulting the cabinet and even before he was sworn in. CAPTAINS PICK.... MALCOLM Turnbull’s decision to secure Government by signing a deal with the Nationals worth at least $2 billion without taking it to Cabinet or the party room has been described as a “captain’s pick” http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/malcolm-turnbull-cuts-secret-2bn-deal-with-nationals/story-fnpp4dl6-1227529406693 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 At least he comes across as more Statesmanlike than that lizard-faced, flap-eared egoist we've got now.OME I suppose you are in a position to sling off at someones personal appearance because you are so good looking yourself? Maybe you can post a photo? I still won't change from being a staunch Labor voter and Trade Unionist OME And there lies the problem it doesn't matter how bad a party is people will vote for it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Was either do a deal on the spot or have Bananaby break his arm or be a minority government momentarily.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 The Liberal Party cannot govern in its own right - that has been the case for a long time. The conservative vote is split between the über-right National Party and themselves. Turnbull had to sign another coalition deal (every Liberal leader has to do this) with the Nationals who are frothing at the mouth over Abbott's downfall whether anyone liked it or not, or have the "LNP" no longer be the "LNP" and no longer able to govern at all. Even if he took it to cabinet, it would be a case of "we do this, or die". They wouldn't have had a choice! And yes, the Nationals are that bloody-minded. There is nothing more ironic than having the far-right elements of the LNP scream and shout their bitter disgust about treachery, disloyalty, disunity, and betrayal, prior to commencing exactly that process with Turnbull! It's like: "WE'RE the only ones allowed to do that, DAMMIT!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 The nationals are agrarian socialists, they just want a hand out not a hand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It's long been an arrangement where the "tail can wag the dog" and subject to abuse. Not getting a good deal for sugar in the TFA's has strained the NP in Qld .It's a COAL ition and some farmers are talking with the greens over CSG mining problems. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Liberal Party cannot govern in its own right - that has been the case for a long time. The conservative vote is split between the über-right National Party and themselves. Turnbull had to sign another coalition deal (every Liberal leader has to do this) with the Nationals who are frothing at the mouth over Abbott's downfall whether anyone liked it or not, or have the "LNP" no longer be the "LNP" and no longer able to govern at all. Even if he took it to cabinet, it would be a case of "we do this, or die". They wouldn't have had a choice! And yes, the Nationals are that bloody-minded. There is nothing more ironic than having the far-right elements of the LNP scream and shout their bitter disgust about treachery, disloyalty, disunity, and betrayal, prior to commencing exactly that process with Turnbull! It's like: "WE'RE the only ones allowed to do that, DAMMIT!" Hmmm - Liberals not able to govern in their own right ... probably agree In the House Lib have 73 or 74 with CLP and 76 is a majority. Minority government possible given the likelihood of Nationals supporting part of the policy platform. Labor at 55 would never work as a minority so its either coalition or Lib minority. BUT In the Senate Lib/CLP is only 28 where 38 is needed as a majority So in reality neither Lib not Lab can realistically run a minority government on their own parties platform with the current elected reps. and the right within the Liberals would not accept the level of party platform move that might work through a minority government with the current senate And then there is the peculiarity of the Australian party system - a Liberal party that is a fused liberal and conservative party compared to other countries where the two political philosophies stand separate. Apart from can a minority government work now is the all mighty bust-up that would occur IF the Lib/Nat coalition was not in place as they went into an election. Having potentially/probably 2 conservative/liberal candidates in electorates would appear to be a brilliantly fun political science experiment to see run its course to confirm if mutually assured destruction of both parties or simple annihilation of one is the outcome. Not something I hazard anyone in either Lib/Nat fancy rolling the dice on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 the libs have slowly been swallowing up Nationals seats, the biggest threat to the Nationals will always be the Libs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Like Google, Did you mean Joh? Or Joh(n) (Howard)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 the libs have slowly been swallowing up Nationals seats, the biggest threat to the Nationals will always be the Libs. I fully agree. This has been the unofficial (and unwritten) Liberal Party policy for at least 25 years. Their ultimate aim is to see the National Party representation in Federal Parliament altogether destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 a fitting epitath[ATTACH]47712._xfImport[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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