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I didn't write it, I copied and posted what was written by noted award winning journalist Robert Gottleibsen.

Makes one wonder Who is telling us what !!!!

This is the most critical issue in Australia's future because it is the first spark that will cause a long burning bushfire throughout our economy and your assets.

IF YOU OWN PROPERTY VOTE NO FOR THE TREACHEROUS VOICE REFERENDUM OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR TITLE AND SECURITY OF OWNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE

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Why the Voice could hurt parliament, capital system: Robert Gottliebsen
 

Anthony Albanese is pushing for a referendum to change the constitution to recognise the role of First Nations people in Australia’s history.

Slowly the Voice debate is swinging to issues like property ownership, rent and the allocation of government revenue.

I could say welcome to my country, but it is a very unwelcome country.

On election night last May, among the most inspiring words of our newly elected Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was his embrace of a referendum to change the constitution to recognise the role of First Nations people in Australia’s history.

Albanese aimed to bring together our past and our present and end current and future basic differences.

At the time, like most Australians without Aboriginal heritage, I knew very little about how the so-called voice would work, but the Prime Minister’s sentiments made me an early supporter.

Then the detail started to emerge, and it became apparent that we were being asked to vote on a proposal without full knowledge of what the legislation to be passed by parliament would contain. I found this both strange and disturbing.

Then came constitutional experts, who warned us that while the proposed wording change to the constitution might look innocuous to a lay person, keywords had legal meanings which the High Court could easily interpret to give the First Nations body very wide approval powers over the actions of the parliament of Australia. Almost certainly that would include the federal budget.

The Australian’s legal affairs writer Chris Merritt, who is also vice-president of the Rule of Law Institute of Australia, explains that the constitutional provision has been drafted in a way that would permit the First Nations body to dissipate its efforts across the entire range of federal public policy – a very powerful body indeed.

More recently the debate has taken an even more dangerous course and a group of First Nation people led by a member of the upper House of the federal parliament now opposes the Voice referendum because it inhibits First Nations’ rights to be declared the real owners of all land in Australia.

Some people in this group take the natural next step and say that as people with Aboriginal heritage own the land, those who occupying it should pay rent.

The Greens, whose support the government needs to pass most of it controversial legislation, say the voice is merely a first step and a “treaty” must follow. The word “treaty” in this context usually means property ownership and rent.

We are now looking at a potential attack not just on the power of our parliament but our capital system, which operates on the basis people who buy, and mortgage property have title to the land.

It’s possible – maybe even likely – that reference to land ownership will be contained in this so far secret legislation.

Perhaps that’s why it’s being kept secret.

In normal circumstances when groups of people or individuals want to reconcile their views and move forward, then any issues involving property, money or rent must be put on the table as part of the reconciliation. If not addressed, then such issues will arise again and again.

Now that section of the First Nation community has raised the issue of property and rent to be paid by Australian householders and commercial property “owners” for occupying land they “don’t own” the issue is in the table.

The government is pouring very large sums into places like Alice Springs, and the overall Australian community has little concept of just how this money is being distributed.

The same applies to the large royalties being paid by mining companies.

Reconciliation is not all one way. It should be a two-way exercise, with both sides coming together and prepared to give ground.

In this context, Australian land covering large parts of WA, SA, NSW Queensland and Northern Territory has the potential to be used as major solar power generation sites and for the growth of carbon absorbing plants like saltbush.

This will be highly remunerative. The land is part of Aboriginal land rights. We need to talk about these things now, rather than leave it to heated debates later.

I don’t pretend to have any knowledge of the forces that are causing First Nations people to attack each other and wreck property.

Obviously alcohol plays a big role, but I suspect deep in the background is the way the abundant cash is being distributed and the difficulty of First Nations people in those areas have in owning a house.

We are now discovering in our capital cities and regional areas that when you spray money into a community, as we did in JobKeeper, it can have bad impacts on the younger generation irrespective of their colour or racial origins.

We are rushing into a referendum that is great superficial community appeal where we have not sorted out the details and kept some of the details that have been sorted out secret. Lasting reconciliation agreements negotiate these things first. By rushing we may head into an area of dispute it will last many decades.

Finally, our Prime Minister is telling us that the new parliamentary body will not impact the broader workings of the nation’s parliament.

I suspect most of the nation is like me and wants to believe him, but the Prime Minister is not a constitutional expert and those with far more knowledge of this subject are warning us that he is wrong.

ROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN 

BUSINESS COLUMNIST

Robert Gottliebsen has spent more than 50 years writing and commentating about business and investment in Australia. He has won the Walkley award and Australian Journalist of the Year award.

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A Congresswoman addressing the NRA conference and gun show said,

"Just letting you know, my two year old daughter has a rifle and a shotgun."

Sorry, this relates to bicycles? How?

Ain't this all of us?

2 hours ago, willedoo said:

the huge majority of firearm owners are responsible.

Maybe in most countries, but not the US. Nine (yes, 9) mass shootings today, one at a 16th birthday party, four dead more critical.

A woman has been arrested for the incident (no accident it appears) in Octave's post. 

P.S.  Oops, beat me to it. Didn't read to the bottom before posting.

Sorry, not for me.

I know this is way off the subject of Musk's rorting, but here is an example of the "then and now" photos on Facebook.

High St Reservoir 1920's

and today.

Notice the window on the front of the London Guarantee building in the 1920's photo and the Stockdale and Leggo building in the other.

Sorry octave. Honestly, this just popped up on Facebook. I just had to share it...

And their video clips, like this one.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1647223259030819

If I had ridden a bike to work before I retired, it would have been 21km each way, up hill and down dale. Quite a bit on top of an 8 hour day. And in Melbourne, it can be brilliant sunshine one minute, and pouring rain 10 minutes later. As they say, four seasons in one day.

P.S.: And I'm not even in the outer suburbs.

The other thing I like about Facebook is all the historical photos that get posted, like the one below of a shop in Wagga when it opened in 1913 and when it burned down in 1962.

Others show scenes around Adelaide, Melbourne and many country towns. There is a group called I Grew Up In Mortdale, which publishes photos from around Sydney. Many people, including myself, post current day photos of the same location for comparison. Very interesting.

CA.90 and Ant-20 both on Unique profiles, Curtis NC added to to-do list.

Nescafe  manages  to arrange a meeting with the Pope at the Vatican.

After receiving the Papal blessing, the Nescafe official whispers, "Your Holiness, we have an offer for you. Nescafe is prepared to donate $100 million to the church if you change the Lord's Prayer from 'Give us this day our daily bread' to 'Give us this day our daily coffee.'

The Pope responds, "That is impossible. The prayer is the word of the Lord. It must not be changed.”

"Well, says the Nescafe man, we anticipated your reluctance. For this reason we will increase our offer to $300 million."

"My son, it is impossible. For the prayer is the word of the Lord, and it must not be changed.

"The Nescafe guy says, "Your Holiness, we at Nescafe respect your adherence to the faith, but we do have one final offer. We will donate $500 million - that's half a billion dollars - to the great Catholic Church if you would only change the Lord's Prayer from 'Give us this day our daily bread' to 'Give us this day our daily coffee. Please consider it.” And he leaves.

The next day the Pope convenes the College of Cardinals."There is some good news," he announces, "and some bad news. The good news is that the Church will come into $500 million."

"And the bad news, your Holiness?" asks a Cardinal.

“We're losing the Tip Top Bread account!"

9 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Again, a bit of a furphy of an argument. Parliamentarians are elected to represent their electorate, not the race they are.

Sorry Jerry, I have to take exception. There is no-one to represent the Sudanese, no-one to represent the Vietnamese, and so on. Why should one race be the exception? Institutionalised racism. 

The banner headlines on the front page of the Herald-Sun say that senior aboriginal elders are joining the NO vote. As Warren Mundine said, "This is not my voice." A group of metropolitan pseudo-whites who will do little if anything for the problems in Darwin and Alice Springs. Window dressing.

I don't use Twitter, but many interesting short video clips from Twitter are shared on Facebook, including many aircraft clips. I've seen a few very short STOL videos, landing and taking off in thee plane's length. I occasionally use Google, particularly Google Maps, for the Streetview function. For other searches, particularly aircraft photos for the profiles, I use duckduckgo.

I use Facebook quite a bit. I keep in touch with geographically distant relatives on FB, and I am in a few FB groups, such as the Vintage Bonanzas group, and a group for former staff of the Commercial Bank of Australia Ltd. In fact, I took a screenprint of the old CBAL Data Centre building from Streetview and posted it on the CBAL group page 7 hours ago, and have had over 30 reactions and about 15 comments so far, from people I worked with years ago, and many I didn't know. It is very handy. I use Youtube sometimes, but not all that often.

I know this is thread drift, but here is one showing the size comparison with a PA-28, parked wingtip to wingtip. Wing shadows show they were not far apart.