Middle East conflict

[nomadpete]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Old Nasho said:

I don't think we'll hear Iranians say "Death to America" again.

Well america sure said 'Death to all Iranians'

[facthunter]

You can't erase that from the History books easily, but Trumps HIS STORY of Himself is a great work Of Fiction and Falsities and Self aggrandisement. Just how VAIN can a Person BE? Nev

[randomx]

As usual, hard to tell what's true and what's not with the latest from yesterday and Chump announcing yet again they have a deal.

Iran replied with a totally different story , again. Think l'd trust their words more than Chumps.

 

At any rate , when ya think about it he needs to untangle this mess very very soon now. He'll need to get fuel and living costs down over there again and the people time to forget this bs before his midterm so he's gonna be wanting the shytshow done fast from here.

Gonna be interesting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[randomx]

Well, surprise surprise , should've caught todays news 1st before even bothering.

Looks like they have another shytshow on their hands at the straight today.

[onetrack]

The reason why Trump is into Iran, is because we as Aussies, fail to grasp just how important Israel and the Jews are, in the American Christian Fundamentalist psyche. Israel MUST be supported at every turn, according to the majority of God-fearing Americans (and there's a lot of them, and a lot in positions of great power).

 

The Jews are Gods Chosen people in their view, and Fundamentalist Americans believe they alone have the greatest God-given power in the whole World, to ensure that the Chosen people survive the Great Evil of the End Days - and that great Evil is Iran, and the Islamic Empires. So every attack on Israel is an attack on every American Christian Fundamentalist. 

 

So when Netanyahu says he's under attack and needs to beat back the Evil Empire, the American can only reply with, "how much help do you need, and we'll provide it for as long as you want".

Netanyahu knows full well the great benefit of having both a huge Jewish influence in America, backed by Christian Fundamentalists.

 

Trump can only see huge Trump Inc gains in resorts and hotels in any of the "conquered" areas - so he's happy to go along with Netanyahu's aims. And Bibi's aim is to devastate anyone, or any organisation, or any country that is Islamic, and threatening Israel.

 

Remember, Bibi's greatly loved brother was killed by Islamic terrorists at Entebbe, and he harbours a bigger and longer lifetime grudge against Islamics, than the grudge that GON harbours against politicians that favour conscription.

 

Trump is an opportunist, constantly seeking adulation and personal glory and wealth gains, and anything that helps those agendas can only be good, in his feeble mind. Accordingly, he's happy to continue to support Netanyahu's adventures into killing multitudes of "nasty" Islamics, because Trump knows that's an agenda that's got a huge level of support in America - and any "wins" over nasty Islamic terrorists (who took a couple of hundred innocent Americans hostage, and who also tortured them in 1980-82, don't forget), is a huge win for Donald. 

 

But now, the American adventure into Eye-Ran is looking a bit messy - and besides, Donny just got told his military have just expended around 11,300 VERY expensive missiles, rockets and other hi-tech armaments - and that Damned Strait is STILL blockaded! - and he's also been told, it will now take about THREE YEARS to produce another 12,000 of those very expensive missiles and rockets, just to make up their basic ammo requirements - and American arms manufactures are RELIANT on that Straits being OPEN! - because American companies are now having problems acquiring the BASICS of many arms manufacturing materials - because quite a number of those basic supply-chain materials HAVE to come through those Straits!

 

"Here is how materials passing through the Strait impact American manufacturing:
Helium for Semiconductors: Qatar, which exports through the Strait, supplies nearly one-third of the world's helium. This is crucial for cooling in semiconductor wafer manufacturing, affecting the production of computers, vehicles, and electronics.
Petrochemical Inputs: The Gulf region is a hub for petrochemicals, supplying a significant share of raw materials used in plastics, polymers, and single-use packaging. Disruptions affect production and increase costs for manufacturers in these sectors.
Sulfur and Fertilizer: Nearly half of all global seaborne sulfur trade passes through the Strait. Sulfur is essential for producing sulfuric acid, which is used in processing critical minerals like copper and cobalt (for batteries and jet engines).
Aluminum and Steel: The Middle East accounts for a significant portion of primary aluminum production, with Gulf smelters supplying material for construction, transport, and renewable energy industries.

Energy Prices: About 20% of global oil and LNG flows through the Strait. A closure causes a dramatic surge in energy prices, impacting the cost of manufacturing and transporting goods in the U.S."

 

So....... right about now, Donny is in a BIG bind! That AWE and SHOCK attack on Iran ain't working! Those GODDAM Islamic terrorists are still beavering away, and still controlling important things like the Straits!! 

I reckon Donny must be looking for a quick and easy way out, and expecting some of his LOYAL associates to come up with the ANSWER! But it ain't forthcoming, and things are getting to be a little too wild for him!! This being a World Hero ain't the easy ride, he thought it would be!!

 

Edited 13 hours ago by onetrack

[onetrack]

This article below, was written in Oct 2025 - well before Lil' Donnys Middle Eastern adventure escapade.....

 

https://www.fpri.org/article/2025/10/americas-scale-problem/

[facthunter]

America has a BIG Race and wealth distribution Problem. Trump can only Make it worse Plus HE wants to be the God-King of the entire World, with Monuments and tributes to Him everywhere. How can HE face the realisation of it not Working. He's the Ultimate Self Centred VAIN Control-Freak with No empathy whatever It won't be pretty to Watch but it has to happen and the sooner the Better for all our sakes.. If you wanted to start a War the ME is the Place to do it and quickly affect the whole world (including the USA).  Nev